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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:28 PM
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Scientology PSA: Treating Mental Illness Like Blowing Your Brains Out
Source: Glossip

In a chilling video available on Citizens Commission On Human Rights website, or the CCHR as those in Scientology refer to it, the organization continues its efforts to equate treating mental illness with psychotropic drugs to suicide. The ominous video shows a bright and handsome young boy getting a script from his smirking doctor, taking it the smiling pharmacist, returning home to his approving mother and then opening the prescription bag, pulling out a handgun and then putting it to his head.

Read more: http://glosslip.com/2008/03/03/scientology-psa-treating... /



I have been educating myself on scientology for about a month now, and I am abosolutely shocked by the human rights abuses perpetrated by the "church".

I suggest people check out videos at xenutv.com (especially in the "interviews" section) and the wealth of information at xenu.net

Do not become a victim of scientology friends. It is far from the benevolent force it portrays itself as. It is mind control and evil that rivals the Bush regime itself.
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:29 PM
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1. It stills blos my mind that they won that battle with the IRS for church tax exempt status.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:34 PM
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3. That was c/o blackmail and infiltration
They got inside the IRS, FBI, and a bunch of other alphabet soups in the 70s and probably dug up a lot of stuff then. Look up Operation: Snow White for more details on that one.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:56 PM
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7. They ended up
with lots of people in federal prison. In my opinion that is espionage and subject to the penalty that goes with it.

Europe is tired of their shit and on the way to throwing them out.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 11:30 PM
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21. Didn't stop them from getting their tax exemption
In spite of including L. Ron's wife being imprisoned for espionage the "church" still got its tax-exempt status. Remarkably this happened shortly after Snow White was exposed, I wonder what was involved there...
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Hestia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:06 PM
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17. Has anyone heard of RLH association with Jack Parsons & Aleister Crowley?
Edited on Mon Mar-03-08 10:07 PM by Hestia
Babalon Bunch - Jack Parsons, The Magickal Scientist and His Circle
http://www.redicecreations.com/specialreports/2006/01ja...

I cannot find the actual ritual but Jack Parons & LRH did a several day ritual saying that they brought forth an elemental called Babalon. It seems they were trying to bring forth a Magickal Childe and it does appear that Cameron Parsons did get pregnant. Word on the magickal street corner
is that they opened a portal - this is 1947ish - and it hasn't closed yet. It seems that lower astral beings are crossing over, and what seems to drive them? Money and Power.

Sound familiar? Do searchs for Queen of Babylon or Queen of Babalon ritual and you'll see what I mean. I know someone personally that attended rituals there at their house and I gotta tell you, blackness just drips from her and her students. Vile and rancid people. I could spend days writing of some of shit they have pulled but yet they seem untouchable.

I know most of ya'll will find this too far-fetched, but sometimes there are things on other planes/levels that can be explained here on our level. The timing is too perfect, everything (when the US reached some sort of weird tipping point as far as torture, mind control, MKULTRA, and so forth) which always points back to after WWII and this ritual was especially commanded by Aleister Crowley and Jack (John Whiteside) Parsons was to be the Int'l head of OTO. Oh yeah, he start JPL. Brilliant man with strange magickal friends.

One thing I must say, he has a book called "Freedom is a Two-Edged Sword" that is one of the best political books I have read. Very short, 150 pages or so. It was written in the early 50s and sounds like it was written today.

From what I have gathered, the Inner Sanctum stuff is a direct copy of OTO (Ordo Templis Orientalis)
(sex magick)and that is where they really blackmail people. Think of it as their own personal Skull and Bones. LRH learned well from Parsons about magick and then he made a bet that he could start his own religion. Just think a cult that uses darker magick. (For any OTO members, I apologize, but from all appearances ya'll do walk on the dark side.)

Just thought ya'll might want to know the above.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:28 PM
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19. It was called " The Babalon Working".
And as the story is told in some circles, they were not successful, because they were a couple of idiots, dabbling with some Aleister Crowley books.

Only in America could charlatans put themselves forward as adepts in The Hermetic Arts.

Portal, indeed. :snort:
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LibertyLover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 12:34 PM
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38. Two fairly recents books on Parsons
Edited on Tue Mar-04-08 12:36 PM by LibertyLover
Strange Angel by George Pendle (2006) and Sex and Rockets by John Carter and Robert Anton Wilson (2005) detail Parsons' metaphysical adventures, including the Babylon Working. There was a story going around years back that JPL really stood for Jack Parsons' Lab. I have read that Parsons was a member of the Agape Lodge of the OTO founded by Wilfred T. Smith, a friend of Crowley. In 1942 Crowley expelled Smith from Agape Lodge and installed Parsons as its head, although he apparently resigned in 1946. If it's true he was a member of the OTO, he may actually have had some hermetic magical training.

Apparently Parsons was also friends (and business partners, although not for long) with L. Ron Hubbard. According to the official Scientology creed, L. Ron was assigned by the Navy to shadow Parsons and break up his magical circle. Umm, yeah, ok.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 12:04 PM
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31. And the rest of us have all missed this?
Riiiiiiight considering how many other practitioners there are out there beyond the Hermetics and wannabes and the rest of us missed this portal being opened and still open?
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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 04:47 PM
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41. IIRC that was only a partial 'win'
IIRC the CoS is now split into 3 diffrent legal entities at least one of which is not tax exempt but that may be outdated info.
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:33 PM
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2. It is theological fascism. No doubt.
There are a lot of crazy folks in this world. Look at all the idiots that voted for Bush. :dem:
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Dave_Fl_50 Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:34 PM
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4. I work in Tampa and I used to live on Clearwater Beach so I'd get to


drive by their world headquarters every day. They own a lot of building downtown and they were always moving between them in latge groups in their uniforms. At one point years ago it looked like a naval uniform. What really surprises me is how many extremely attractive women they manage to recruit. It's striking. They sill won't get me though. No religion ever will.

P.S they get a lot of protesters from Germany showing up outside their headquarters. Germans really actively dislike them.
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liberal_rxstudent Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:17 PM
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12. Hey...did you hear about this
The guy in Clearwater (a vocal foe of the crazies...I mean Scientologists, was found dead in an "apparent" suicide. Come on...even I know that Clearwater police are in the pockets of these cultish people. I hope people check out this story...it creeps me the hell out!!! http://www.sptimes.com/2008/02/19/Northpinellas/Scourge... :wtf: :scared:
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Dave_Fl_50 Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:35 PM
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14. I didn't hear about that. I think they usually destroy people with
lawsuits though
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liberal_rxstudent Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:57 PM
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16. Well, that is also true.
These people are not a joke. They have unlimited funds and are (mass) brainwashed...a dangerous combo. So, you've seen how outlandish these folks can be. I love Clearwater...it is sooo beautiful. I just cringe when I drive through downtown. The city really does love these people being here...I even think that the guy who apparently commit suicide (yeah, right)got into a dispute that may have led to his "suicide". By the way, when was the last time you've heard of someone running a garden hose from his car into his home in order to end his own life??? I guess maybe either he wanted to be comfortable, or possibly, someone (or some people) decided it would be better if he weren't around anymore...he was a loner, so who would miss him?? Sounds pretty eerie. :scared:
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 05:16 AM
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26. Dave_Fl_50
Dave_Fl_50

Germany, treath this group of orgination the same way they treatend the neo-nazis or the old type of nazis... It come under the same penalty code I belive

Diclotican

Sorry my bad english, not my native language
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 12:05 PM
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32. They've got good reason to
The government views them as proto-fascist and that will get you in trouble over there c/o all that mess in the 30s and 40s.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:51 PM
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5. I've been saying for years it's a cult
Anyone who blithely dismisses criticism of the Cult of Scientology under the guise of "religious tolerance" or "all religions are greedy scams" really, really doesn't know the first thing about this criminal mafia organization masquerading as a religion.

For Christ sake they confiscate passports of foreign national Scientologists and force them to work in their Clearwater, FL facilities. Including children. Not to mention those torture camps for Sea Org members who exhibit "SP" tendencies. They pretty much own the town of Clearwater.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:54 PM
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6. A great reason to revoke its charter
Clearwater ceases to exist and can not employ police or collect taxes.

They are an idiotic alien cult.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:57 PM
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9. I used to make it my business to mess with the ones in Times Square
They always have tables in the Times Square subway station in NY. One day I was feeling especially cheeky, and I signed up for one of their stupid "stress tests" with a fake name and address. I went along with it normally at first, and then all of a sudden started raving about Xenu about halfway through. :evilgrin:

Needless to say they were not amused.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:10 PM
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11. Brilliant!!
I generally would not mess with a persons beliefs, but these people are recruiting marks. Its a con. So screw them.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:38 PM
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15. It is
They're perfectly free to believe in bad science fiction if they want to (lots of actual religions teach wacky shit, including mine--hey, we cast spells fer Pete's sake!). It's the fact that it's a giant pyramid scheme run by a mafia-like organization that bugs. Most religions don't make you pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for their Great Cosmic Truth aka wacky shit.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 08:56 PM
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8. I'm sure Dr Nordenholtz would agree.
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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:08 PM
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10. Someone I used to work with got induced via her boyfriend/fiance
And actually, yes, she was good looking (as someone else mentioned).

At that point, since she was a friend, I started researching Scientology.

It's a bunch of shit, and you have to reach a Thetan level or some such sci-fi crap. I wouldn't mind, except they are constantly requiring you to pay to get to the next "level".

She shelled out a lot of money for a cruise, and lots of members spring for whatever kind of testing (I forget the code word) that "clears" you or whatever for the next level.

I don't know. All I can say is that if you're that gullible/stupid maybe you belong in a cult.

But it ain't no religion.
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liberal_rxstudent Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 09:20 PM
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13. Good to know that others think
this is scary. I see these people pretty often...the look so fresh and wholesome. I am just too creeped out by them and what kind of suspicious things that surround this- eh hem..church. I can feel the chills creep down my spine. Read this article. Apparent suicide??? You can be the judge. :scared: :scared: http://www.sptimes.com/2008/02/19/Northpinellas/Scourge...
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Feron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 10:24 PM
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18. You know it's funny...
Scientologists made this video saying in essence that psychotropic drugs kill and yet the untreated schizophrenic son of a scientologist stabbed his mother to death. So much for the power of L Ron's 'tech'.



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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 12:08 PM
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33. And for a really fun one
In the coroner's report for L. Ron's body they found a psychotropic in his bloodstream when they did the tox screen.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 11:27 PM
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20. As much as I hate the church of scientology...
I can't say I 100% disagree with that little ad...
unfortunately, there *do* exist some medical 'professionals' who are nothing more than shrill pill pushers out to make a quick buck.

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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 11:31 PM
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22. Not the same as giving people a loaded gun and advising suicide
Even if you agree with the part you posted, the manner in which it is presented is horribly inaccurate at best. It might have been a stretch but possibly true in the 1850s, in this day and age is downright slanderous.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 11:36 PM
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23. well yes, it is about as subtle as a 2x4 to the nuts...
but some of these drugs+pill pushing 'doctor' can royally screw you up (I have witnessed this in my immediate family)
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 12:09 PM
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34. Doesn't justify the message or approach
I know those pills can fuck people up, I was a Ritalin kid, but I wouldn't call it giving someone a loaded gun and encouraging suicide.
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DumpDavisHogg Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 01:48 PM
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40. Psychiatry is itself a cult
That's why Scientology despises it so. It's a competitor.
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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 04:51 PM
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43. WTF are you babling about.
thats the CoS line that it's a cult. It most certainly does not qualify by most definitions or criteria as a cult... unlike Scientology.
Care to enlighten us as to what definition or criteria you are using to define a 'cult'. Are you a paleontologists or dead agent? Psychiatry may have a shady past but it does a whole fuckload of good now. Calling it a cult is strait up either ignorant or intellectually dishonest.
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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 04:48 PM
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42. Inability to make important distinctions FTW n/t
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Rottenmac Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 04:32 AM
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24. Plagiarism
plain and simple.

http://www.scientologie.org/english.htm



Can I be concerned NOW?
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DetlefK Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 04:43 AM
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25. South Park came up with a great solution for Scientology:
Stan was mistaken as the reincarnation of L. Ron Hubbard and they made him their leader. He was to write new chapters for "Dianetics". One of his changes in the policy of Scientology: As Scientology is the only good religion, they have to reach everybody. So from now on all services are free. He was dethroned 5 minutes later.


A quite simple and stunningly effective idea: If you wanna be a tax-exempt church, you can't make donations/payment for religious services mandatory.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 12:11 PM
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36. Won't happen
And that episode was pulled after the CoS threatened to sue Comedy Central. Among other things the CoS is the ONLY church that has ALL their sacred texts, name, symbols, and everything else trademarked.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 05:24 AM
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27. Well, prozac does cause suicidal behavior in some
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:06 AM
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28. Even a branch of medicine that claims only to have some answers...
...is perceived as a threat to a business that claims to have them all.
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Q3JR4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:47 AM
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29. I don't get it
l. ron hubbard wasn't even a good science fiction writer.

Ah the crazy sh*t that people are willing to believe....

Q3JR4.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 12:13 PM
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37. It's what he teaches
The gist of it for the appeal is Scientology says that your problems aren't your fault and they can be fixed for a nominal fee of course. They target people with low self-esteem, etc who are easy prey for that and there you go.
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 12:00 PM
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30. $cientology is bad news.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 12:09 PM
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35. Listening to Scientology -- like having no brains to begin with.
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 01:30 PM
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39. I despise CoS, a brain-washing mafia scam
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