WE ARE GOING TO WIN THIS, I GUARANTEE YOU....

[tbuddha]

Kerry will be in the White House as long as we keep up the pace we have been at the last few weeks. We need to keep the emails going, keep the protests going...as long as we do this more and more leaders will fall in line as they see the movement grow.

I can't say this enough:

1) Protest, Protest, Protest
If you have time to attend any protest in your area, DO IT. Get out there. Especially in Ohio and Florida. We did one in CO and it made the news. IT puts a face to this that people DO CARE about this election for all to see.

2) Email, Email, Email
Use our talking points (see below). Send to local media. Send to national media. Send to congressmen. Send to friends and family. Post in various blogs. Bookmark as many sites you can and put them all in a "stolen election" folder for easy reference. Save good articles as Word docs for cut and paste later.

TALKING POINT: We have mountains of evidence of fraud. From voting machines that counted extra Bush votes to voter suppression and intimidation. We have hundreds of incidences that republicans used. Every established indicator of fraud that we have is showing that this election was STOLEN.

Pound these republicans with the message. Thank Jesse Jackson for putting his ass out there. He needs our support. We have a huge lead on the truth right now and as long as we keep our talpking points out there, OUR talking heads on the TV will get the message out better in the coming weeks. But we have to protest too. And if they try to stone wall in court, we'll protest there too.

"Be the steamroller, not the asphalt". Personally, for me it's not enough to see Kerry inaugarated in January. I want Bush in the Hague for the war crimes he has commited, where he can sit and play spades all day with Saddam and Milosevic.

[movonne]

1. That is news that I really would like to hear !!!

[Mirwib]

29. It may be great to hear

Kerry got back into the game a day late and a dollar short.

[Hekate]

31. It may be too late to salvage Kerry, but WE should not be silent

Silence is consent

Hekate

[Cowboy Joe2k]

45. It is not to late, it is not even early. We are waking up for the first

time. Fore the Love of freedom kick this post:

Kick this. This is all we hoped for this is what the world needs tied up in a bow. For the holiday this is what the world needs now. entire world Peace. Kick this if you ever thought you were free. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...2&mesg_id=...

Kick this every chance you get least you wined up kicking the damn thing for ever. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...2&mesg_id=...

Kick this. this is the one little bit of information that can save the world.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discu...2&mesg_id=...

I may have bargained a solid argument to avoid getting stuck in this damn contraption.

[pipes]

54. Your links are Broken!

I 've seen this elsewhere and your links go absolutely nowhere, fix em or stop posting please...I would hate for someone to blast this and then have it not work or back fire making DU look bad!

[Pacifist Patriot]

2. I wish I had your confidence.

Perhaps it's the loss of energy from fighting this vicious cold, but I'm quickly running out of steam. It all seems like such a done deal at this point. *primal scream*....if I had the strength that is.

[politicasista]

3. Yes, I thought Kerry would win in a landslide.

How are we going to get him to unconcede?

[RaulVB]

5. More I read your posting...

I don't know your ultimate goal but mounting evidence points to the fact that Kerry, indeed, won by a landslide if you remember that the Republicans manipulated the results in 3 states that are worth 52 electoral votes!

[politicasista]

8. I know RaulVB, but it's a joke that he isn't President-Elect..

and the fact that so many don't even know this is happening have moved on and excepted Bush for four more years. (I have tried to spread the word though).

[Laelth]

11. Here's what I predicted on the Friday before ...

... the election. I thought it was a pretty good prediction, based upon the polls at that point.



-Laelth


Edit:Laelth--html error.

[IndyOp]

32. Laelth's Election Projection

Laelth - Great map! Really, really fuzzy on my screen. Could I get a crisp copy?

Thanks! IndyOp

[tbuddha]

6. By showing him he won silly...

As soon as the votes are there I'm pretty sure he'll accept the presidency.

[smartvoter]

7. I wish I had your optimism.

But I am fighting nonetheless.

[driver8]

18. accepting the presidency

Oh my God, it would be so sweet if Kerry won this election after all...especially so I can tell all the freepers I know to kiss my liberal ass!!

However, I have to ask this. If you were Kerry, would you want to take over this clusterfuck that Dubya and Co. have created?

[tbuddha]

19. I think he will when he sees how much we are behind him

That's why we need to not expect help from anyone buy ourselves. WE need to do this, and we have been. WE raised money for a recount. WE spread the word. WE did the analysis.

The stronger we get, the stronger our leaders get.

[darthdemocrat]

23. You think he won't step up if he sees a viable path? Come on! -eom-

[Catamount]

24. He did win in a landslide.

The votes just haven't been counted yet.

[NVMojo]

4. a positive outlook, thanks for that!!

I cant' believe it but I haven't given up yet, either!

[pauldp]

9. Protest Now! n/t

[tbuddha]

10. And let's stop indulging whiny pussies on this board

by replying to their limp messages. I hate seeing weakness on this board.

[RaulVB]

12. Amen to that (n/t)

[meganmonkey]

13. Downtime is over - we have to BE LOUD!!!!!

The last few weeks have sucked ass, waiting for counts to be certified and not being able to do much. But we're getting close to the time when we find out the truth.
We know how the MSM work. WE HAVE TO BE LOUD TO BE HEARD!!!! We have to TAKE TO THE STREETS in Ohio this weekend and our state capitols nest weekend. Look what's happening in Ukraine! We have to talk to people we know - everyone - so that this theory stops being tin-foiled! WE KNOW THIS IS REAL!!!!!

Email links to fraud-related articles & blogs to people you know, especially the 'credible' ones like AP and Olbermann. The MSM is picking up on this and we have to make sure the spin is kept to a minimum. Now is the time!

And wouldn't it be a great (insert generic December holiday here) present!!!

[SueZhope]

14. Thank you

Sounds very wise to me .I like the way you think.
It helps that you are Buddha also...Thanks for the great post

[tbuddha]

hate to kick myself again

but I cannot abide the weak posts at the top of this board right now. This will give you a laugh:

http://homepage.mac.com/duffyb/nobush/iMovieTheater245....

[dzika]

15. Photos from Demonstration in CA

Take a look at the photos from a demonstration in California

http://www.indybay.org/news/2004/11/1707625.php


-snip-
"The demonstration, organized by the Wellstone Democratic Club of Silicon Valley, and by The Dean Democratic Club of Silicon Valley, was to protest the Media's near complete silence concerning voting irregularities in the 2004 presidential election."

[eowyn_of_rohan]

16. How was the news coverage of your protest?

We had one today in Wisconsin, against the contract recently signed for a statewide voting list, with Accenture. What an invigorating experience. We estimated around 200 people. We watched the coverage this evening on one of the channels that was filming (the other is taped, havent seen it yet). It was so biased against us... They downplayed the number--they said "over 100", the diversity of the group, the message, almost as if they were trying to portray it as a trite and worthless thing to do. They also gave incorrect information--either because by design or due to poor research--regarding the company Accenture, and its problems in Florida.

[tbuddha]

17. put it this way...

It made the news on the local FOX affiliate and they currently have a poll on their website asking if people believe the election was accurate.

[Quakerfriend]

20. Everybody go see

The fabulous pics of the crowds demonstrating against Bush in Canada today.......Keep the faith people the world is just waiting for us to show up in the streets! Let's go Philly people!

[Quakerfriend]

22. Once the lava starts to flow

this is going to blow wide open

[pick_a_dilly]

21. SIMPLE FUN WAY TO KEEP THE MESSAGE OUT THERE

1) make a sign
2) put it up . . .

easy fun: check ou this great work . . .

http://www.freewayblogger.com /


STOP and AUDIT and PROVE my VOTE counts

[autorank]

35. pick_a_dilly...A Special Welcome to DU!

Corporate America controls the media and we get manufactured news.
Corporate America now controls the voting machines and we get manufactured elections.

http://www.blackboxvoting.org /

[texpatriot2004]

40. Thanks for that. I love that site. n/t

[TexasLawyer]

60. Inspirational

I love the freewayblogger pictures! If WE are the media (and at this point we still are) then look at these pix and get inspired.

[proudtobeadem]

25. Kick

[texpatriot2004]

26. I will keep doing my part and I know you will keep doing yours.

"I want Bush in the Hague for the war crimes he has commited, where he can sit and play spades all day with Saddam and Milosevic." tbuddha

Now that is a fantastic vision. I would love to see that myself.

[texpatriot2004]

27. kick

[tbuddha]

28. kick

[StephanieMarie]

30. Where is Colorado was your protest?

My extended family lives there, and I can send them to the next one if there is one. Here in Georgia, I have no hope of protests. My county went 78% for Bush. Pity me.

[MNBiker]

33. Kick

[tbuddha]

48. On the steps of the capitol in Denver

There are pics on here somewhere

[texpatriot2004]

34. kick

[Stand and Fight]

36. Let's hope

I hope that this winds up being the case, and am most certainly praying for such. I'm also working as much as I can to aid the recount efforts in Ohio and other states. I'm growing increasingly discouraged though... Nothing big, nothing truly concrete, has emerged as of this moment. The brief in Delaware County, Ohio by the Kerry campaign is interesting, but has been largely over-rated. I want to see John and John come out on national TV in a "breaking news" press conference.

[tbuddha]

49. Wouldn't be a good idea right now

Look, it wouldn't be a good idea for Kerry to hold a major press conference until the MSM gets going more with this story first. If he did so now it would look ridiculous on him to most Americans (most Americans not being nearly as informed as DUers). Bev Harris, Randi Rhodes, Ralph Nader, Jesse Jackson, ...? (soon to be disclosed...maybe Gore?)

We are building momentum. Be patient

[texpatriot2004]

37. kick

[Progressive Dude]

38. Man, I hope you are right.

Four more years of the moron will kill us all.

[donachiel]

39. I'm with you on this.

We have to keep the faith.

[Democrat Dragon]

41. Dumpster time!

We COULD do a dumpster dive to salvage thsoe itty bitty pieces of poll tapes left.

Or maybe we can just spread the news of fraud just like Bart did in that episode of "The Simpsons" with the photo of Homer and that girl. Ya know, give a flyer to someone, then tell them to give to someone else and to tell that person to give it to someone else to and so on, jsut like a chain letter.

[Twist_U_Up]

42. kick

[texpatriot2004]

43. kick

[garybeck]

44. here is a list of action items

http://www.solarbus.org/stealyourelection/action.html

[gorbal]

69. Awsome list of links:)

I didn't know there were things going on near me.

[goldengreek]

46. Jesse Jackson's the man.

I was very disappointed in him when he told us that Bush as legitimately elected. I think he just trusted the Democratic leadership on this.

(Never a good thing.)

Or maybe he's just the bone the leadership has thrown to the dogs.

(That would be us.)

Either way it raises our profile and is fine with me.

[ayree be liberal]

47. Absolutely. It is 100% guaranteed.

[tbuddha]

50. yeah, I kicked my own post...so?

[politicasista]

51. Still keeping the faith

Even though it feels like time is running short.

[mod mom]

52. Come to Ohio! then it must spread

but first we have to motivate those moved on progressives to join us. Call a friend, help them see the light. THIS IS ABOUT THE INTEFRITY OF OUR DEMOCRACY! We must outdo the brave determined Ukrainians. We need more leaders for Jesse Jackson to come on board. Where's Bruce, Enimem, Edwards, John Lewis ? Our civil rights were abused! What happened to equal treatment under the law? Why did some voters have no waits and some had to wait 5-10 hours? Anyone ever hear of a POLL TAX?

[FogerRox]

53. The fat lady aint sung yet

Bush is considered a competent pres--the Pipe line in Afagnistan and control of the Iraqi oil spigot make Bush look good--in a certain circle. BUT most of what Bush has done make him untenable.--Kerry won --And we can prove it.


I see the Media black out- more as a symptom--If you see the day when National coverage of this issue is on TV--the Deal is done. Support of Bush from the Powers that be could be cut off--if this happens you will see the black out lifted--at that point its a done deal Kerry will go to the White House.

Revote--recount--lawsuit----dont matter. Bush must be seen as UNTENABLE. How do we/I make Bush seem more untenable?
Those of you who have been on the campaign trail know about "visibility" or Honk & WAves. 10 or 20 folks at hi traffic intersections---which -with a press release garner attention from the media not the police--at least it is less likely that the police would be interested in 15 people--versus 200 or 2000 at your TOwn Hall.
A large groups of protesters may get the attention of the police in a neg. way. SO what signs to carry?
1) Honk for Kerry
2) Kerry won
3)We can prove it

The message must be positive-as the spin. Target different intersections along your "MAin st." If you will.
See if the Event Planner is still up @ John Kerry .com

My talking point is --Kerry won --And we can prove it.

My thought is --get that message to the streets: --Kerry won --And we can prove it.

[meganmonkey]

55. Kick!!!

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[New Earth]

57. LOL

[Snivi Yllom]

58. I would bet $10,000

that George W. Bush is inaugurated on January 20, 2005.

[texpatriot2004]

59. kick

[tbuddha]

61. We've made it to Crossfire...make sure to email Paul Begala

Paul Begala is now involved on Crossfire and in the "debate" format. Yes, I know it's BS on there, but it's still a big jump in the MSM for our movement. Let's make sure Paul has all the facts. There is an email for Crossfire. Does anyone have an email that goes straight to Paul?

[zann725]

72. It also made it to "Washington Journal"/CSPAN(Dec. 2)

available online at CSPAN.
Very impressive discussion discussing the "F" word AT LENGTH, and possibility of changing the ENTIRE election outcome. Attorney filing case in Ohio tomorrow (Arneback) really presents the case impressively.

[Name removed]

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[tbuddha]

63. Wow...you are so out in left field, get informed first

Thanks for trolling, but I think you should take some time out to get all your facts straight first. Frankly, most of us don't have time or the desire to go over the mountains of evidence we have accumulated with you. Your best bet is to go to Blackboxvoting.org and read as much as you can first, watch the movie, THEN make a post. Right now, you're just additional proof of how ignorant you dumb Bush fucks are.

[Name removed]

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[buzzard]

66. Do they really throw out signed tapes funny?

[tbuddha]

67. Excuse me, but you are a dumb fuck...Here's why

4000 extra votes in ONE precinct in OH is not voter error or a "typical" mistake.

BBV found errors of a few hundred votes in EACH precinct in Volusia...that adds up to a WHOLE lot more. AND the tapes that were thrown out were NOT copies, they were signed originals.

I wonder if you think the guys at UC Berkeley are just a bunch of quacks too? Most likely, you haven't even read their study because it's way too hard of a read for you. You ARE a dumb fuck because at this point you have to be to like W.

[sabra]

64. Nothing to see here... Move On n/t

[DARE to HOPE]

68. No, such "irregularities" are NOT "normal for any election..."

...and you need to read a few books if you "don't think Bush is Hitler."

[FogerRox]

70. 4th generation arms dealer

and 3rd generation fascist. The acorn hasnt fallen far from the tree.

[Wordie]

71. Kick

[bmoney07]

73. agree

we have come too far!!!