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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 01:01 PM
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Article Alleges Saudi, Enron money paid for Election Rigging
Saudis, Enron money helped pay for US rigged election
By Wayne Madsen

four paragraphs excerpt (full article at link at bottom)

November 25, 2004According to informed sources in Washington and Houston, the Bush campaign spent some $29 million to pay polling place operatives around the country to rig the election for Bush. The operatives were posing as Homeland Security and FBI agents but were actually technicians familiar with Diebold, Sequoia, ES&S, Triad, Unilect, and Danaher Controls voting machines. These technicians reportedly hacked the systems to skew the results in favor of Bush.

The leak about the money and the rigged election apparently came from technicians who were promised to be paid a certain amount for their work but the Bush campaign interlocutors reneged and some of the technicians are revealing the nature of the vote rigging program.

There have been media reports from around the country concerning the locking down of precincts while votes were being tallied. In one unprecedented action in Warren County, Ohio, election officials locked down the facility where votes were being counted. The officials said this was in response to a Level 10 high-threat terrorist warning being issued by the Department of Homeland Security and the FBI for Warren County. George Bush won 72 percent of the vote in Warren County, much larger than his percentage of victory statewide.

The money to rig the election in favor of Bush reportedly came from an entity called Five Star Trust, largely based in Houston but a worldwide entity that is directly tied to the Saudi Royal Family. Five Star Trust was termed "a well-protected vehicle" that has been used to support both Bush and Osama bin Laden in the US and around the world.

Full Article at Online Journal
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/112504Mads...

or pdf document
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/112504Mads...

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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 01:05 PM
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1. kick
This would not be ANY suprise! The Saudis are HORRIBLE PEOPLE!
The Saudi Royal Family is and enabler of terrorists!
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 01:07 PM
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2. Surprise? NO. The junta will not give up control so long as there is $$
to be stolen, laws to be changed for corporations and nations with resources to take over.
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Dolphyn Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 01:08 PM
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3. Already posted and extensively discussed. See:
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 01:18 PM
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4. but still important to watch...
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Ducks In A Row Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 01:20 PM
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5. dupe
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 01:42 PM
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6. I've emailed this to my list -- need verification -- some what-ifs
We need verification -- verification

(1) What were the names of tech-reps for each voting machine company at each precinct?

(2) Do these names match the names of company tech?

(3) What were the names of FBI agents etc who contacted the precincts -- can these names be verified?

(4) In each precinct -- names of anyone who was not a dem or Republican official or official poll watcher (credentials etc).

It would seem that the voting machines companies are under fire to prove that their machines work as advertised -- they need to verify the names and placement of their tech-reps.

Anyone who had physical access to the equipment must be account for. And it would seem that this would have to be done on a County or city by city level.

Work is ongoing to prove that vote fraud occurred -- and we also need to know HOW this was done.

We have a plausible scenario -- now this version will need verification.

A few key counties with more votes than registered voters might be where the questions about "feds" who could have been fake feds -- or tech reps. Did these fed have access to computers?

Impersonating Federal officers is a crime -- so this is a serious accusation -- and it could get some of the voting machine makers off the hook.

If this is a sham story -- and this reporter has been given a Rove disinformation story --

Then who would benefit from this misinformation.

This story has a lot going for it -- the people who did the hacking had to have knowledge how each state tabulated votes -- this could have been done remotely. If it was done on-site then the hacker had to have had some sort of automatic trust -- and that would be a company tech-rep or a "Fed".

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Cowboy Joe2k Donating Member (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 01:53 PM
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7. Smoking Gun??
If this information is true, is it not the Smoking Gun needed to at least prompt an investigation?? I am so tired of finding information such as this and then being overcome by a feeling of helplessness.

"The leak about the money and the rigged election apparently came from technicians who were promised to be paid a certain amount for their work but the Bush campaign interlocutors reneged and some of the technicians are revealing the nature of the vote rigging program."

Can this be proved? are the "technicians" willing to testify to the assertion that they rigged the voting machines?

I fear that this may end up another 60 second news story about how one or two machines were rigged but the amount of tampering was "not enough to sway the vote." Statements such as this make me sick. after all how many machines need to be tampered with to in fact sway the vote??? with margins such as 50,000 or 100,000 or even 150,000 it does not take a scientist to figure out that a total of 10 to 20 rigged machines could easily do the job.

Something else to remember is that evidence that the central tabulators were in fact vulnerable to hacker manipulation has been un-covered by www.blackboxvoting.org Computer professors have stated after looking at the code that drives these machines that if their students had submitted these programs as a final project they would fail the class.

I am appalled that the mainstream media continues to bury this topic under such subjects as the crazy deer hunter or the Scott Peterson Trial. Stories that I feel are not news worthy at all. Like wise I don't care that they found some Molting Seal in a drainage ditch, or that a puppy fell down a well. In comparison to a situation that is a true threat to Democracy as we know it, how can they give these stories so much attention.

Furthermore I am sick of people saying "You lost, get over it." If I lost because you cheated I am well with in my right to call your attention to the rules of the game. I am also sick of the assertion that if it is not covered by Fox News, it must be a conspiracy theory. How many Sources do you need before you start to wounder if theory is fact. further more I point out that the concept of "God" is a theory but "Conservatives" don't have any problems believing in that.

I do not consider my self a "Liberal" a "Conspiracy Theorist" or even a "Democrat". I am an American and if you don't believe that such wide spread allegations of Fraud should be at the very least investigated then not only are you un-American, but you are a threat to Democracy.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 02:01 PM
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8. Then investigate it - BE the media.
Channel that frustration not into hopelessness, but action. Get on the phone to Senators and Congresspeople, write to the national media and the local media, make a few investigative calls yourself and post them here - there are some people here who love to run with stuff like this. Get the ball rolling! I'm with you.

NGU.


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JD Lau Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 02:21 PM
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9. See ongoing thread on "technicians"...
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