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jmknapp Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 09:28 AM
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Vote rigging by machine allocation in Franklin County, Ohio


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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 09:44 AM
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1. That is Great!
Very clear statistical evidence. Some of this is sure to be the urban vs rural polling places, but it's still unequal protection.

Do you have the raw data by any chance? Is it tied in to the actual vote? That would make an interesting further analysis -- you could show how fewer machines derpressed turnout.
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jmknapp Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:06 AM
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4. Good idea... here it is
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jhgatiss Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:42 AM
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13. Now....
Can you make it three dimensional with the Kerry vote as another variable? ;)
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jmknapp Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 04:40 PM
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16. Not 3D, but color-coded
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Critical Thinker Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 04:54 PM
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17. Excellent, this is the graph
Edited on Thu Nov-18-04 04:56 PM by Critical Thinker
...that most clearly presents your case, IMO. Great work !!!
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 09:51 AM
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2. Very cool. The 9 hour poll tax in graphic format!
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:25 AM
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8. Well put.....
.....9 hour poll tax indeed! :evilfrown:
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Critical Thinker Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 09:57 AM
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3. Very interesting analysis, but
Edited on Thu Nov-18-04 09:59 AM by Critical Thinker
You may have left out the single most important plot:
what I don't see is an analysis of total ballots recorded per machine vs. Kerry % in precinct

If voter turnout per machine were actually "flat", then it would show that the BoE people had done a good job of providing a "level field" throughout the county.
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jmknapp Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:13 AM
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5. Not really
Basically the machines were operating at their maximum capacity in most precincts. So the throughput would be expected to be flat across precincts in the overloaded case. Your analysis doesn't take into account the people deterred by the long lines, walking away never to return.
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esvhicl Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:14 AM
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6. Ohio testimony kpfk right now!
http:///www.kpfk.org

Listen to testimony.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:24 AM
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7. only shows a slight bias
Sorry but it does not appear outrageous enough.
The ture test is to simply draw the line at the 50% mark. Now that DOES show more machines in anti-Kerry precincts.
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jmknapp Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:33 AM
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9. The way queuing theory works is
that near the maximum capacity of a server, a smallish increase in traffic can cause the queues to balloon.
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Critical Thinker Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:53 AM
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11. Plot #3 is the best
OK, I just now saw the plot you posted in Reply 4. IMO, that plot does present good evidence that inadequate machine distribution correlates to surpressed turnout. Need to figure some way to tie the info in plot 3 with the info in the first 2 plots...
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jmknapp Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:06 AM
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12. Here's the spreadhseet
...if you want to try your own analysis:

http://www.copperas.com/votingmachines/fcresults.zip (zipped excel file)

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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 10:50 AM
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10. It May not be Outrageous
but it's plenty large enough to swing the election. Smaller precincts averaged about 60% turnout, larger ones were under 50%.

The thing that's especially great about this is it's all Franklin County. The comparison is much more apt than if Cleveland and Toledo were shown next to some farming communities.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 11:47 AM
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14. well then similar tables need to be drawn up statewide
to get a fuller picture. The anecodtal evidence is overwhelming that the Dem precincts got screwed.
We need tangible proof.
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jmknapp Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 01:54 PM
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15. Here's a fuller picture of Franklin County
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 06:33 PM
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18. That's a 20% + swing
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jmknapp Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-18-04 08:07 PM
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19. Here's a web page summarizing the results
Thanks for the suggestions, DUers...

http://www.copperas.com/machinery
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