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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 04:00 PM
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THE BOSTON GLOBE BREAKS THE SILENCE
Media accused of ignoring election irregularities
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/president/articles/2004/11/17/media_accused_of_ignoring_election_irregularities?pg=2

By Mark Jurkowitz, Globe Staff | November 17, 2004

Two weeks after Election Day, explosive allegations about a media coverup are percolating.


There's the widely circulated e-mail about a CBS producer who complained that a news industry "lock-down" has prevented journalists from investigating voting problems that cropped up on Nov 2. There's the rumor that MSNBC host Keith Olbermann, who has devoted serious air time to discussing Election Day irregularities, was fired for broaching the topic. There's the assertion by Bev Harris, executive director of Black Box Voting Inc., that she had received calls from network employees saying they had been told to lay off the sensitive subject of voting fraud.

In the days after Nov. 2, the Internet was abuzz with charges from partisans that voting irregularities might have cost John F. Kerry the White House.

With some media outlets moving swiftly to debunk the notion that the election had been stolen by the Republicans, the press itself has come under scrutiny, accused of everything from a conspiracy of silence to a collective passivity about pursuing voting irregularities.

"The mainstream media is not treating this as an important story overall," said Steve Rendall, senior analyst at the liberal media watchdog group Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting. "The mainstream media has largely treated the story as some crazy Internet story." At the same time, Rendall acknowledged: "There has been excess in the way stuff has flown around the Internet and e-mail lists."

Tracking down the sources of the rapidly proliferating online allegations about a media "lock-down" is a daunting task. But the response to them has been unequivocal. "Absolutely untrue," a CBS spokeswoman, Sandy Genelius, said when asked about the report of the whistle-blowing CBS producer. "Absolutely, positively, categorically false. Besides that, it's absurd."
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 04:02 PM
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1. did Keith Olbermann get fired?
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 04:03 PM
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2. NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He is really on vacation....

It makes us look stupid when we keep having people say that. Nothing personal, just the way it makes us look, that's all.
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bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 04:04 PM
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5. no
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 04:05 PM
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6. No, he did not get fired, and
there's no lockdown, they just don't feel like covering the story because it wasn't handed to them in a press release with the official White House seal on it.
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ydya Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 04:06 PM
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8. I dont think there's any freakin way they'd fire Olbermann. eom.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 04:04 PM
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3. yo, yo, wait a minute. when did olbermann get fired.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 04:09 PM
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14. See post 2
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Baja Margie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 04:04 PM
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4. Finally !
Edited on Wed Nov-17-04 04:21 PM by Baja Margie
Good for the Globe. Where have I been? I thought Olberman went on vacation? He was fired?

Edit: Nevermind, I read the whole story, well, at least it's out there- maybe a beginning I hope.....but then, remember how they squashed Garrison? Little leak out stories like this, hardly picked up my major Newspapers, then, absolute silence. I hope Bev Harris posts again asap.

Mama Mia !!!!!
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 04:07 PM
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12. Guys, try to keep up!
Oberman in on a vacation! (scheduled in Aug.) He's still blogging, from an "unknown location"
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 04:05 PM
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7. maybe i'LL start reading the paper again
:D
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Rjnerd Donating Member (351 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 04:06 PM
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9. Its a start, but I would love to see some national paper
pick up the dumpster diving for tally tapes story. Unfortunately, my only contact at the Glob writes computer fluff pieces for the biz pages.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 04:06 PM
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10. Time-out everyone
Here's Olbermans latest blog. He is on vacation

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 04:07 PM
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11. Maybe we are at the leading edge of the press
finally starting to cover it... remember WATERGATE took 18 months to explode
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 04:14 PM
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19. i think bev harris would agree
she says in the article that "it's a sensitive story," and "still in the early stages."

so i guess i'm going to have to be obsessively following this story for another 17 and half months. no prob! :)
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inmania Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 05:06 PM
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23. votergate will not take nearly as long as Watergate to explode...
weren't any internets back then to spread information quickly
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 04:08 PM
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13. Olbermann is on vacation
The article said that it was "rumor" that he was fired and Keith himself debunked this. Pay attention!
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 04:11 PM
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15. I hope he's vacationing in Florida.
In Volusia, to be explicit.

Great that this article is not just a debunking but a calling out of the media. Lazy is too good a term for them.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 04:11 PM
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16. Don't give the Boston Globe any credit
Mark Jurkowitz is a media columnist. He independently wrote an article in the Living section where he can be seen. When the Globe assigns reporters to cover election results in disputed counties in Ohio and Florida, then and only then should the Globe get any credit.
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SaintAnne Donating Member (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 04:12 PM
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17. investigate
soooo we are now looking at voting irregularities... what can we do now? are we gonna push for this, or just hope some one does the check? I don't know what to do. I feel like such a little person
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 04:13 PM
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18. Send a check to
blackboxvoting.org

Follow the story

Tell your friends,

Show the numbers,

It is now up to us
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SaintAnne Donating Member (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 04:15 PM
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20. okay
dokay, I'll try, thanks
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keepthemhonest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 04:27 PM
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21. I just emailed CBS
and told them If they are not on lock down then prove it , cover the story. I don't mean the lock down story, but the fraud story. I told them they must be learning from the politicians on how to side step issues instead of anwering the question.

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keepthemhonest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 05:02 PM
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22. you know what they say
the squeeky wheel gets the grease.

we must be sqeekin because they at least keep refering to the blogs

we're smokin and where there is smoke there is fire.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 05:39 PM
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25. Other things you can do
ALSO SEE: VOTE FRAUD? What can we do? http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2701028#

Also see these threads for news and info you may have missed:

VOTE FRAUD Links - a DU Compendium
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=201&topic_id=1984#

VOTE FRAUD Links Compendium - Thread #2
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=201x3223

********SEND THIS TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW AND MEDIA TOO *********
Best Fraud Summary I've seen!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x57214
Link: http://www.bopnews.com
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EndElectoral Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 05:32 PM
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24. Why isn't Bev Harris on 60 Minutes?
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The Flaming Red Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 05:57 PM
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26. Red herrings anyone? Fried, baked boiled, black and white and RED all over
AAAGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! You stupid fuck. You don't even talk about the real facts.
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