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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 10:50 PM
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Anybody else having a lot of difficulty believing the vote is this close?
I just KNOW that the Dems did much better in getting out the vote and registering new voters.
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  - I don't believe the vote is close in FL--I think it was rigged by Diebold  slinkerwink   Nov-02-04 10:50 PM   #1 
  - There's fraud there, that's for damned sure.  Warpy   Nov-02-04 10:51 PM   # 
  - Actually, we use Sequoia machines here  kdmorris   Nov-02-04 11:33 PM   #30 
  - Oh yeah, something is very, very wrong here. Something is  nemdaille   Nov-02-04 10:51 PM   #2 
  - Diebold did it!  PROGRESSIVE1   Nov-02-04 10:51 PM   #3 
  - I don't believe any of this!  Child_Of_Isis   Nov-02-04 10:52 PM   #4 
  - I knew this would happen from the beginning, then had faith we'd do it  LosinIt   Nov-02-04 10:52 PM   #5 
  - Nope! Where have you been for the last few weeks?  candy   Nov-02-04 10:52 PM   #6 
  - Every year for decades the exit polls reflect the real election - until  FloridaPat   Nov-02-04 10:53 PM   #7 
  - And isn't it interesting  scmirage   Nov-02-04 10:54 PM   #8 
     - So what can we do?  TimeToGo   Nov-02-04 10:56 PM   #11 
        - One option is to appeal to the international community  Oak2004   Nov-02-04 11:14 PM   #25 
  - I'm having alot of difficulty  TheFarseer   Nov-02-04 10:55 PM   #9 
  - Yes!  devilgrrl   Nov-02-04 10:55 PM   #10 
  - diebold  absolutezero   Nov-02-04 10:56 PM   #12 
  - The fix is IN  amber dog democrat   Nov-02-04 10:57 PM   #13 
  - I have an awfully hard time believing it, yes.  fishwax   Nov-02-04 10:57 PM   #14 
  - Yes but  mad_as_hell   Nov-02-04 10:58 PM   #15 
  - yeah this isn't making any sense.  FizzFuzz   Nov-02-04 10:58 PM   #16 
  - www.nov3.us  Hatalles   Nov-02-04 11:01 PM   #20 
     - thanks. looks like this might have to get posted on DU front page  FizzFuzz   Nov-02-04 11:20 PM   #27 
  - It's frigging laughable  soundhead   Nov-02-04 10:59 PM   #17 
  - I don't believe any of it either....  October   Nov-02-04 11:00 PM   #18 
  - the vote, in FL, OH, CO at least, is not believable  leftofthedial   Nov-02-04 11:01 PM   #19 
  - Who are all of these Gore voters voting for Bush this time?  patsified   Nov-02-04 11:03 PM   #21 
  - I hate to add to the tinfoil, but  matt819   Nov-02-04 11:10 PM   #22 
  - After Florida 2000, you consider this a 'tinfoil' issue?!!!! JEEEEZ!  Dover   Nov-02-04 11:32 PM   #29 
  - Pay no attention the man behind the curtain.  USSA   Nov-02-04 11:11 PM   #23 
  - They were still voting in Ohio at 11PM  molly   Nov-02-04 11:11 PM   #24 
  - I can't believe it....  barking_23   Nov-02-04 11:16 PM   #26 
  - I don't believe it for a minute.  snacker   Nov-02-04 11:22 PM   #28 
  - this whole thing stinks to high heaven . . .  OneBlueSky   Nov-02-04 11:54 PM   #31 
 
slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 10:50 PM
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1. I don't believe the vote is close in FL--I think it was rigged by Diebold
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 10:51 PM
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There's fraud there, that's for damned sure.
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kdmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:33 PM
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30. Actually, we use Sequoia machines here
They are just as bad as Diebold, though.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 10:51 PM
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2. Oh yeah, something is very, very wrong here. Something is
rotten in the United States; and I don't honestly believe it's the people.

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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 10:51 PM
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3. Diebold did it!
:argh:
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Child_Of_Isis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 10:52 PM
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4. I don't believe any of this!
The only people who I have seen who like shrub have been on the tele. Not real people!
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LosinIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 10:52 PM
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5. I knew this would happen from the beginning, then had faith we'd do it
now I am back to being devastated and planning our emigration.
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candy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 10:52 PM
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6. Nope! Where have you been for the last few weeks?
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 10:53 PM
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7. Every year for decades the exit polls reflect the real election - until
the computerized election machines. Heavy turnouts are for the Democrats. There were 50,000 more Democrats in Florida than repubs before this year. Did they count the early votes throughout the state? Apparently they didn't do it in Miami-Dade. This is unbelieveable. How can there be this many stupid people in this country. Especially with all the voter registrations. I don't get it.
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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 10:54 PM
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8. And isn't it interesting
that in the uncontested states, the exit polls were accurate but in the swing states they were dead wrong? How is that possible? HMMMMM.
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TimeToGo Donating Member (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 10:56 PM
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11. So what can we do?
Are we powerless? Will the media "take up the cause"? Hardly.
We need some kind of plan.
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Oak2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:14 PM
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25. One option is to appeal to the international community
Remember, Bush's little fantasy empire is entirely dependent upon international lines of credit, and their faith in Bush's conquer and bankrupt platform is already growing thin. If he can't borrow, he can't invade, and without an army, he can't rule.

To our European friends: please start to work on economic sanctions the moment Bush officially steals the election, assuming he succeeds at it. Treat us the way you'd treat any rogue nation that threatens the world. I know at least some of us will be working at changing this regime from the inside.
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 10:55 PM
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9. I'm having alot of difficulty
believing we're gettin gour ass kicked in almost every election. Damnit this is disappointing. we could still pick one of these off though
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 10:55 PM
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10. Yes!
:mad:
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absolutezero Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 10:56 PM
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12. diebold
its the only thing i can think of
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 10:57 PM
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13. The fix is IN
It has to be.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 10:57 PM
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14. I have an awfully hard time believing it, yes.
:grr:
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ramapo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 10:58 PM
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15. Yes but
just when you don't think it can get worse, it does!
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FizzFuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 10:58 PM
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16. yeah this isn't making any sense.
now I feel very ignorant...aren't there groups ready to wrestle this one? Its not as if it comes out of left field. There HAVE to be people organized and ready to fight the fraud.
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Hatalles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:01 PM
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20. www.nov3.us
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FizzFuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:20 PM
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27. thanks. looks like this might have to get posted on DU front page
as our next priority.
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soundhead Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 10:59 PM
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17. It's frigging laughable
Why are we surprised at this shit? Just step back and think for a moment: the company that manufactures the e-voting machines is a Repub company, whose CEO promised to "deliver" OH votes to Bush.

How is it possible that this situation even came to pass? Everyone is just too trusting. They steal it with glee, knowing that because it's so blatant we will all say, oh it would just be too obvious if they stole it.

This shit has to end. That scum bastard lying fuck can't be allowed to defile the White House for another 4 years.
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October Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:00 PM
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18. I don't believe any of it either....
WTF

No Way!

Which states were Diebold?
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:01 PM
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19. the vote, in FL, OH, CO at least, is not believable
I went into this believing that Kerry needed 72% of the popular vote for it to look "even."

I think I was right.
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booksenkatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:03 PM
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21. Who are all of these Gore voters voting for Bush this time?
As Dennis Fung said at the OJ trial, "Something wrong." (sic)

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matt819 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:10 PM
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22. I hate to add to the tinfoil, but
Take a look at NH as a microcosm for the country. Maybe that's not valid, but this is my post, and I'm going to make that assertion.

Even with only 4 electoral votes, we're a so-called battleground state.

So. . . there were some major voter registration efforts, which I think the commentators pretty much believe was "won" by the dems.

Then both parties put on a major get out the vote effort -- hell, there were more than 600 volunteers active in our country democratic office. And the secretary of state estimated a record 600,000 voter turnout.

As of now, with 481,000 votes counte, Kerry's up by about 7,500.

The point? We have paper ballots throughout the state. So, if we're a microcosm -- major voter registration, major get out the vote, countable and recountable and verifiable ballots -- and Kerry is ahead, wouldn't you think you'd see comparable results elsewhere in the US? Add to that some of the more responsible pollsters drawing the same conclusions, and you do in fact have to wonder about where the popular vote stands.

Is something fishy? Certainly there's an odor.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:32 PM
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29. After Florida 2000, you consider this a 'tinfoil' issue?!!!! JEEEEZ!
Edited on Tue Nov-02-04 11:33 PM by Dover
WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!
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USSA Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:11 PM
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23. Pay no attention the man behind the curtain.
I seriously doubt Bush is winning w/o some rigging of the election.

Anybody with half a brain knows Kerry had this election in the bag.

Time for another drink...Kerry is MY President!

~
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:11 PM
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24. They were still voting in Ohio at 11PM
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vajraroshana Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:16 PM
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26. I can't believe it....
I saw the voters here in Alabama....too many newcomers and I'm sure they voted Kerry.

I can't believe the rest of the country has become Alabama. I just can't believe it.....

There are many states left yet....(pun unintentional, but surely appropriate).

Don't freak out yet.

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snacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:22 PM
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28. I don't believe it for a minute.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:54 PM
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31. this whole thing stinks to high heaven . . .
millions of new voters did not register to cast a supportive vote for a very tenuous status quo . . . this just doesn't make any sense to anyone with common sense . . . we're being hosed, and badly . . .
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