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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 10:33 AM
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Ok ER Forum Gurus: Our Last Chance
I have a feeling that is we don't get reform done now, we never will.
(Yeah, I've got a wee bit of optimism left)

So what do we do?

My favorite, most simple reform would be that all federal office ballots are cast on paper and hand counted.
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 09:41 PM
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1. I don't have even a wee bit left but I like your idea.
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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 08:41 PM
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2. Try to find a sponsor for a bill. What else?
But if, even at the state level, legislators don't seem to be terribly interested in finding out who's winning and losing our elections, there isn't much we can do, is there?
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 09:59 PM
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3. Platform at party convention?
I don't know how many people we have left that are willing to fight.

I haven't much left in me. But damn, we did have some success. Lots of laws got changed around the country. We got real close to a real fix, and given that ES&S and Diebold hated us we done real good.

Is there anything simpler than paper-hand-eye for federal elections?
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zacherystaylor Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 08:54 AM
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4. Simple but not enough
This is simple and we should have a way of verifying the ballots by hand that the public can understand and trust but it won't be enough to change the things we need to change. We also have to have a sincere way of addressing the issues starting with the basics that everyone can understand.

Quick easy answers can be an important part of the solution and they're easy to act on but we should always remember that we need to be prepared to continue following up; as I suspect you intended but we need to take one step at a time.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 11:45 PM
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5. Welcome to DU, and the ER
If you check my profile to see how many posts I have and consider that a guesstimate of about 4,000 of those were in this forum, you might be asking questions of me instead of telling me what I should be doing. Eh?

Here is a little test:
Do you understand why I propose that only federal races be paper-hand-eye counts?
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zacherystaylor Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 08:56 AM
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6. No disrespect intended
I apologize if it seemed as if there was in my first post; that wasn't my intention; however I also expect to be treated with respect.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 09:56 AM
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7. You want respect? Answer the question:
"Do you understand why I propose that only federal races be paper-hand-eye counts?"

Like I said, welcome to DU and the ER.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 12:37 PM
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8. Crickets?
Where did ya go? Not even gonna try and answer and easy question?
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-11 08:32 PM
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9. oooh oooh oooh
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