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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 01:02 AM
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Fair Vote Chairman mocks verified voting movement, says "where are the prosecutions?"
Edited on Sat May-29-10 01:03 AM by WillYourVoteBCounted

Pro instant runoff voting group shows how much they care about fair elections



The Chairman of FairVote took a swipe at the verified voting movement in his defense of instant runoff voting in the comment section of an MYNC news article. See Second Primaries In NC Costing Millions RALEIGH, N.C. May. 18. The comments section soon became a free-for-all, with North Carolinians and a Burlington VT citizen taking on FV chair Novoselic and others to debunk pro IRV talking points.

Here is one of the comments posted by FairVote Chair and former Nirvana band member, KristNovoselic.



Whats with this "election security movement" bit? Or the joke about conspiracy?
Verified Voting, public observation of vote counts, chain of custody, audits, standards for voting systems, this is all a big joke to you?
Its all just a conspiracy?

Don't try to peddle that to the folks in Carteret County where 4, 400 votes were lost in the 2004 General Election.
Don't pitch that to the voters in Sarasota Florida when there were 18,000 undervotes in the FL 13 congressional race. It is a really really bad idea to belittle the verified voting movement in North Carolina. Folks from around the state worked hard for this law, we care about this law, and we continue to protect it today. And we will fight the outside interest money being used to eat away at the Public Confidence in Elections Law.


To understand how IRV hurts election transparency in North Carolina, please see

7 Ways Instant Runoff Voting Undermines North Carolina Verified Voting law



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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 03:13 AM
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1. Yes, they're stealing your vote....
...Last fall, ES&S quietly purchased Diebold, giving them 80% of market for electronic voting machings. And it's not just the un-auditable vote-counting; they now also own polling place check-in software (electronic pollbooks), voter registration software and vote-by-mail authentication software.

http://www.benalexandra.com/cool_stuff/diebold_ess.htm

This link has very scary information, all with appropriate citations, regarding what could easily be a mass-manipulation of our elections.

They've already been caught registering voters who thought they were just signing petitions. Getting total registered voter numbers higher gives them more room to fudge numbers.

When you buy a pack of gum, you get a receipt. Why is there no receipt/audit trail on our votes? I can only think of one reason.

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AtLiberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 12:35 PM
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2. Yes, where ARE the prosecutions?!?!?
There should be election officials, voting industry execs and some IT geeks donning orange jumpsuits all over the country.

It certainly hasn't been due to a lack of evidence or a lack of trying to drum up more prosecutions.

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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 03:01 PM
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3. I am guessing
that you didn't see the sarcasm aimed at e-voting movement?

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