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AtLiberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:32 AM
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SCOTUS: Unlimited corporate contributions okay in elections
Everything I have worked for in election reform over the past five years has been undermined by this decision.

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onehsaquestion Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:34 AM
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1. Flip Flop Day
Liberal members of the court arguing against free speech.

Conservative members of the court taking part in judicial activism to legislate from the bench.

What next?
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:37 AM
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2. Corporations are not persons despite what the corporatists claim...
No one is arguing against free speech for actual persons. Commercial enterprises are not persons.
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onehsaquestion Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:39 AM
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5. Does everything on this site have to include
Edited on Thu Jan-21-10 10:42 AM by onehsaquestion
a disclaimer that it's tongue in cheek?

But seriously speaking, part of the question is where does freedom of speech end. You, like the dissenting opinion of the court, are arguing that it doesn't extend to corporations.
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naaman fletcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:37 AM
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3. The problem is McCain Feingold over-reached..
The plaintiff has a good case. He creates a video, asks some supporters to help finance it, and wants to broadcast his message. This is no damn different than the publishing of the Federalist Papers or just about anything else that was done by the Founding Fathers.

The ban on corporate giving that has existed for a long time was fine, but McCain-Feingold, in over-reaching, wound up getting that repealed as well.

It should be easy for a few people to get together and fund whatever political speech they want. McCain-Feingold tried to make that near impossible, and now we have suffered the result.
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:38 AM
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4. What is the tax treatment for those contributions?
We the ppl can't deduct those contributions from our taxable income, can corporations deduct them as a business expense?
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Craftsman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:39 AM
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6. I guess we might as well hang a for rent sign on Capital hill.
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 10:52 AM
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7. You mean just make it bigger.
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AtLiberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-21-10 09:14 PM
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8. What do we do now?
Do we add on our election reform to-do list working (very, very quickly) toward a constitutional amendment to stop this madness?
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rusty_rebar Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 03:06 PM
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9. This should cut both ways.
If corporations are people, they have a right to free speech. They also have an obligation to pay personal income tax, as well as the corporate taxes. I think we should press congress on this.
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AtLiberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 10:18 AM
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10. We must have a major boycott list...
...for all corporations who take advantage of this ruling!
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n3ttik Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-03-10 06:31 PM
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11. This is horrible
A perfect example of the fact that the pen is mightier than the sword. Those justices really screwed us this time.
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20Jan1961 Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 01:59 PM
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12. We The PEOPLE need to stand up to this!
This video really got me jolted to fight against what the Supreme Court just did!

ItsOurDemocracy.com
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Jenni S. Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 05:13 PM
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14. You're right, we have to stand up to this!
The media just isn't covering this after the first few days. We have to projects going to help making this a campaign issue. We feel that if it's a campaign issue the media will have to cover it.

If you want to help out here are the two projects:

Sign the Petition:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/Corporate-Personhood-C ...

The People's Project:
http://sites.google.com/site/wethepeoplegroups/regional ...

We also have a coalition of over 30 groups united on the issue of corporate personhood:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/WE-THE-PEOPLE-United-for -...

If we all work together we can do something about this travesty.

Jenni
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Jenni S. Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 05:12 PM
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13. Make Corporate Personhood a Campaign Issue
The media just isn't covering this after the first few days. We have to projects going to help making this a campaign issue. We feel that if it's a campaign issue the media will have to cover it.

If you want to help out here are the two projects:

Sign the Petition:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/Corporate-Personhood-C...

The People's Project:
http://sites.google.com/site/wethepeoplegroups/regional...

We also have a coalition of over 30 groups united on the issue of corporate personhood:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/WE-THE-PEOPLE-United-for-...

If we all work together we can do something about this travesty.

Jenni
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speedcat Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 02:23 AM
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15. thanks Jenni
I joined the Facebook group. This ruling IS pretty scary.

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