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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:39 PM
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My anger is getting to me... It clouds my thoughts...
I read things on this board and on others and I get so angry at what I see. I feel so helpless and want to do everything I can. I do everything I can and yet I still feel like I can't help. I think it is the anger that debilitates. At first it gets one exited, then it starts to drain. It keeps draining until you are an empty shell. We must find a way to concentrate in this cloudy emotion.
:argh: :hangover:

As Nixon put it, (paraphrase) "Don't hate your enemies, because it will destroy you." This was what he said as he resigned. It is obvious now that I must try to control my anger and try to deflect it into a different emotion. What emotion could possibly take all this energy? The only one I know is love. The love of this country and the love of all the people who live in it who think just like us or those who disagree. Most of all, love for my family and my wife. I want to protect them from a country with no choice of leadership or direction. We must take our country back, because the ones we love need it.
:hug:
:grouphug:
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:43 PM
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1. I understand what you are saying. I am trying to be good but
most time I am overcomed and obsessed with anger.
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:44 PM
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2. hard to not be angry
but hate attaches you to its object. i truly pity the unenlightened. we cannot be silent. apathy led us here. our impotence rendered us apathetic. but now we unite as never before. that is our strength. hugs back
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 11:08 PM
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10. I kinda envy the unenlightened....they carry no burden...they're not aware
that we, the people, are being brought down by our self-claimed rulers. We are targets. We are dangerously and heart-breakingly off course as a country.

Think about it - we send people to other countries to audit their elections and we have to fight for ours.

It looks like we might be brought up for war crimes.

We're going broke fighting an ill-planned, pre-emptive war for corporations and their military, media, and political friends.

It looks like the EU is figuring out they have to out-manipulate us - they seem to have received a promise from Iran not to build nuclear bombs. THE EU IS PRE-EMPTING our war against the Iranians. Think about it. Isn't it wonderful. This is the first big act of peace. I hope some of their non-controversial countries take over the Palestinian-Israel problem with the help of some Asian, African, or countries in America or the Caribbean.

We have Brazil contacting Aristede to tell him he is not forgotten while no one in the U.S. gives a darn about the misery we created in Haiti.

I have the anger and it comes out as extreme sarcasm relative to the extreme hypocrisy of their words vs their acts.
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camby Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:48 PM
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3. don't hate the people, hate the process --
and then work to change it. In my opinion, first thing we need to do is to get this voting system fixed. Without that, everything else is meaningless. Same time - we have to work on turning the tide of public opinion. Let's face it, we all know many, many bushies. They are not bad people. Misguided, misinformed, uninformed - yes, all of the above - but they are Americans, too. (Actually, some of them really are narrow-minded buttheads, but they are not the majority.) We were doing pretty good before the election at exposing the Emperor's (lack of) new clothes - we have to keep that up. Believe me, it is much easier to sling arrows than to deflect them, and this prez/administration provide such easy targets.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:52 PM
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4. I hear you.
I'm politely trying to avoid certain people because I can't stand to be around them right now. I'm hoping that in the weeks ahead, my anger and disgust toward them will diminish and I'll be able to return to a more normal relationship with them. For the time being though, I'm keeping a low profile.
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Road Scholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 12:51 AM
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17. I sure can relate to that.. NT
:(
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:54 PM
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5. Resolve
Resolve to do everything you can to undo this, and to get others to listen and help as well.

That will instill hope.

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:56 PM
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6. Ok this will go AGAINST all common sense and
mental health training I ever got (as a medic)

EMBRACE that anger, and make it your own... it will help to make the following changes

Don't hate though that is what weakens you physically and mentally.

Now here are some things you can do RIGHT NOW to empower yourself, and be aware this will take years maybe to bear fruit

RESIST the machine from eating you

Find people who think the same

BOYCOTT the machine, they may not count the votes but Lord will they count the dollars. Don't watch Teevee, and in fact if you really want to take it to the next step INFORM advertisers why you no longer watch.. reading is back in vogue in fact

;-)


Find LOCAL businessses who are not tied to the GOP... and DO NOT under any circumstances go to Walmart, not even to use the Bathroom. Patronize local businesses, and avoid places like oh Starbucks.

BUY only Ameircan Made goods... they still exist, if you do not find it, you don't need it. Enough of us do this, they will get the message.

When replacing vehicles, we need to, either buy a hybrid or a two year old car. If you can find a used hybrid in good shape then this works double

Get out of ANY debt you have and live simply, the less we spend on the manchine the better

Cancel credit cards that are MBNA tied

Carry ONE credit card for emergencies, otherwise live well within your means and use CASH... why debt helps the machine, living within your means helps you, and when the economy collapse you may even have a reserve

SAVE as much as you can... this will be painfully obvious in the not so distant future.

Oh and investment look how to invest green and... call in your debt from Uncle Sam, if you happen to have it... look people Herbert Norquist said that he intended to drown the gov'ment in debt, this means they won't pay it when all is said and done, take him at his word and invest accordingly

DON'T play into the merchants for either Christmans or Thanksgiving, and if you do, well embrace the SPIRIT of the seaon and it is NOT to comsume with no end and get in credit card debt from now to eternity... if you absolutely need to get soemthing, do so from LOCAL artists.

Yes embrace your anger and do these things... it will be healthier for you economically and yes you will be doing soething
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bluetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:58 PM
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7. Liquor and sex have been working wonders for me.
I've been feeling at least half crazy most of the time. But, also, strangely more even more energized than before. I guess that's the rage or maybe wild desperation. Before the election, I was overcome with dread knowing these machines were going to cause problems and only daring to hope Kerry would rally enough to overcome whatever they tried to pull. The curtain of dread has been lifted to reveal reality and I'm determined to fight. There's nothing left to lose. I've been feeling (really, I can only guess and don't mean to be insensitive) but how I imagine one who is diagnosed with a terminal illness might feel. If this ship is going down, as it appears to be doing, I'm going to spend as much time as I can with the people I love and involve myself in work that brings me joy.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:58 PM
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8. The courage of the common soldier in blue


"To charge the enemy or enter a battle when one knows that there is no hope of success, requires courage of a much higher order than when the soldier is sustained by the enthusiasm born of hope."

-- Colonel St. Clair A. Mulholland, 116th Pennsylvania Infantry

Winter was setting in as the first units of the Army of the Potomac gathered above the banks of the Rappahannock on November 15, 1862. The army, 130,000 strong, was in need of a rest, none more than the Irish Brigade, but the new commander of that army was under political pressure to act, and act he would.


In terms of strategy, tactics, and generalship, the resulting battle of Fredericksburg, fought on December 13, was probably the most poorly conceived major engagement fought during the American Civil War. Confederate General Robert E. Lee took up a strong defensive position on the south side of the Rappahannock River with his Army of Northern Virginia and dared the new commander of the Army of the Potomac, Ambrose Burnside, to come and try to take it.


Fredericksburg was the most one-sided major defeat suffered by either side in the Eastern Theater during the War. The Federal army sustained an estimated 13,000 casualties, nearly three times the Confederate total of 5,000. But within these unequal casualty figures lies the reason this battle, in spite of its foregone outcome and uninspired tactics, continues to fascinate those who study Civil War history.

This epic battle, coming less than three months after Antietam, profoundly established the courage of the common soldier in blue. When the battle's smoke lifted, all could see that what stood between the Federal army and victory was its commanders, and not the pluck of the men in the ranks. And though many units in the Federal ranks demonstrated that fortitude on December 13, none surpassed the performance of Meagher's Irish Brigade.


....

In terms of strategy, tactics, and generalship, the resulting battle of Fredericksburg, fought on December 13, was probably the most poorly conceived major engagement fought during the American Civil War. Confederate General Robert E. Lee took up a strong defensive position on the south side of the Rappahannock River with his Army of Northern Virginia and dared the new commander of the Army of the Potomac, Ambrose Burnside, to come and try to take it.

The wait under fire must have seemed interminable, and then the order rang out "Irish Brigade, forward at the double-quick, guide center, MARCH!" The smallest of 15 brigades to make the attempt that day, Meagher's Irish Brigade, now stepped off as one man, with the 69th New York, already on its way to immortality, holding the right.

more
http://www.thewildgeese.com/pages/fredpt1.html



DECEMBER 13 IS WHEN THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE MEETS. KERRY'S "CONCESSION" IS NOT LEGALLY BINDING, AND HIS "PHONE CALL" IS NOT A WRITTEN CONTRACT.


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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 11:07 PM
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9. donate, volunteer to help, wait for Bev. Turn lemons into lemonade,
honey. I hear ya.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 11:09 PM
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11. Thanks everyone... Hope is here, it isn't on the way anymore...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 11:17 PM
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13. that's the sprit
:-)
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 11:10 PM
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12. Don't get angry, get even
How to get even? Prove the case the vote is corrupted.

Get the facts. Pursue the data from your state and compile it. Look especially at the absentee/early votes to find the irregularities and post it on DU in your state's forum and here.

And then take a long walk. When you get back go at it again until everything you can uncover is uncovered. Go to your local Sup. of Elections office and ask questions, seek answers, and decide that your area will NEVER again use the black boxes to count your vote again.

They are stealing our country with the black boxes, take that away from them. Get even.
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jhgatiss Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 11:30 PM
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14. There isn't enough sex or alcohol in the world to make me feel better.
I spent a lot of money that I really don't have to spend. That worked for awhile to cheer me up. Everytime I see a damned "W" sticker on a car or truck that goes by I want to get out and get "electoral" on their asses. Imagine being in the epicenter of this in Ohio and having to face all the people you know that voted for Bush that could have changed this everyday. I find myself looking around wherever I am wondering, "Are they part of the people to blame here?" I can identify with the anger. I find myself wondering if this whole "Stolen Election" business isn't just complex denial that we're all feeding ourselves to stay somewhat sane. Personally, I would rather just know that W won fair and square so I can move onto the next big issues. Raising consciousness about Iraq (Horrific report about the atrocities in Fallujah was on AAR tonight), lobbying to block Gonzales' nomination, working to gather forces for the midterm election, trying to find out who funded the anti-gay marriage ballot measure here in Ohio.... All things that I am worried that we're ignoring out of complex denial. Don't get me wrong - there's nothing I wouldn't like to see more than John Kerry inaugurated on January 20th but I am more than a bit discouraged.
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demodonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 11:31 PM
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15. Go out and talk to some people about the BBV issue (not just election).
I did this over the weekend, and it is amazing how many are concerned about this out there. But most think that nobody is doing anything, or there is nothing we CAN do. When I tell them that they can get involved, push for voter-verified paper-ballots on the new electronic machines, demand random recounts of a certain percentage of precincts every time, etc. a lot of these folks get excited. Tell them to go to blackboxvoting.org and especially to watch the movie at votergate.tv

I called a talk show and brought up that we need to get the system cleaned up for future elections. More called in after me with the same thought.

Shooting your mouth off releases a lot of anger, try it!


PS -- I saw a "bushmobile" (car with pro-Bush and anti-choice stickers all over it) in a parking lot. One of their slogans was "You can't be a Catholic and be pro-abortion", so I stuck a note under their wiper, "You can't be 'pro-life' and KILL CHILDREN IN WAR!"

I FEEL GOOD! :bounce:
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GuardingVirginia Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 12:26 AM
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16. then it's time for some fun...
While you are enjoying the excitment time for some fun. ..


Go to www.ifilm.com

click on Viral Videos .

watch: Monkeying with the vote.

and Voting machine.



he he

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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 12:59 AM
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18. Malcom X said...
"Usually when people are sad, they don't do anything. They just cry over their condition. But when they get angry, they bring about a change."

-- Malcolm X, 1965


It's OK to be angry. A lot of us are very angry. Let's put this energy to good use.
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