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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 10:41 PM
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the buzz on the street is....
Obama's lead is too big, and too many Republikans don't like McCain anyway, so they're going to let that go.... and the fraudsters are going to turn their sights on preventing the 60 seat majority in the senate. then they only have to mess with one or two state races.

just a buzz i heard... who knows.

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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 10:43 PM
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1. Minnesota watch out.
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 10:44 PM
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2. that was my first thought exactly
unfortunately Al Franken is clueless on election fraud.

people would ask him about it on his radio show and he'd always say it's impossible
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 10:22 PM
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12. If he said that, then he gets what he deserves.
It's our COUNTRY, Al!
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-05-08 06:04 PM
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16. Randi R. had quite a lot to say about this today....
She called it "Karma" that he dissed her on the electile dysfunction issue, and now he's crying "Foul".

Well, Al, you had a chance to get a clue.

:mad:
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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 10:47 PM
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3. Works for me- lightens the stress a bit and every bit is welcome-
I vacillate between moments of truly believing we are actually going to have the landslide we need to overcome what has already been stolen and what is to be stolen in the upcoming days ahead and waves of total and complete anxiety. My friends and family are in the same place- wanting so badly to believe we will be celebrating on November 5th, but so beat up from the past 8 years or stolen elections that we're terrified to allow the hope to take over.

Good news if the buzz is correct so thanks for the news.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 10:58 PM
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4. There should have been more discussion on those Congressional races.
The 60 seats seems damned important to me. But what do I know.

I have gone back and forth between being worried, and what my common sense tells me. Leaving worry behind, I predict polls blowing up wide. There isn't going to be narrowing. And stealing isn't going to be easy unless they're doing something we aren't on to yet.

It's looking positive.
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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 11:25 PM
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5. It's Much Easier to steal House Seats
No audit currently on the books is powerful enough to detect a rigged congressional district, except the one in NJ where they still don't have a paper trail. Of course in VT and MT, the State is the Congressional District!
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 11:45 PM
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6. but in VT we don't have any audit
so they could steal it easily

i think they won't touch it because Welch leads the polls so much

the one I worry about here is our Governor race. I highly suspect the diebold machines elected him.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 12:13 AM
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8. MOST states have no audit...or one of much significance.
Statewide races are one thing, congressional districts and races lower down the ticket are probably the easiest to steal.

And bad guys would probably be just as willing to target smaller races regardless of efforts to rig the presidential.

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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 12:40 AM
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9. yes, i've been thinking about local races a lot lately, here in Vermont we have a big issue
one of the oldest nuclear power plants in the country is in Vermont. Its license is expiring in 4 years. in 6 months there will be a vote in our state legislature to renew it or not.

our republican governor is in bed with the nuclear power company. he blocked an independent inspector from checking out the plant. he vetoed a bill to make them clean up their own plant whenever it's shut down.

the vote will be in this coming spring.

there are no audits whatsoever on our state legislature races.

this is exactly the kind of thing the repubniks would want to get their hands on if they could.

they can.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 12:10 AM
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7. Top of the ticket would be too obvious but watch for "upsets" down ticket-imho
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-01-08 12:27 PM
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10. Yep. And I am suspicious of 100% of "upsets." With good reason. nt
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emlev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-02-08 01:22 AM
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11. That's part of why we started StandingForVoters.org
A bunch of Congressional candidates have taken the Standing For Voters pledge. Two senate candidates and many more House candidates. Feel free to give info about the projects to any candidates whose races you feel are in jeopardy. They probably won't take the time to sign on now, but they might find themselves suddenly interested in a few days.

Read all about it.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 10:25 PM
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13. That buzz you heard
was posted here on ER DU a week ago. Guess who posted it?
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 12:49 AM
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14. Apparently the street figured this out after they sent you the folded absentee ballot?
With the crease over Obama's circle. I just sampled that thread, amused that they were tinkering with a state as lopsided as Vermont.

That's the beauty of the fraud crew, fluid potential to isolate and scream. That presidential race is getting a bit away from you, isn't it, now with a 92% expectancy according to Intrade, and growing all the time.

What better deflection than to identify a 50/50 race like Franken/Coleman and get ready to plaster the theft assertions all over it. Hmmm. We can probably find an outlier poll with Franken well ahead and clutch that one, disregarding all the ones hinting Coleman leads, or virtually a toss up.

Don't worry, we're guaranteed to lose our share of tight ones, on every level, including races in which the Democrat led the polling. This forum will thrive.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-04-08 10:40 AM
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15. I get the feeling
You think we are CT'ers? That there are no problems with the system? That bushco wouldn't take any opportunity to keep power?

You show little respect for us and our efforts, and I get the feeling you don't like what we are trying to do.
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