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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 12:02 PM
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Exit Polls 2008: Question

After what transpired in 2004 with exit-polls showing questionable results it behooves us to question the upcoming exit-polls of 2008.

We can expect once again that the exit polls show a democratic victory, at least in the 'raw' numbers.

In 2004, the raw numbers showed a democratic victory and did so all day right up to midnight before the exit polls were cooked in with the results. After being cooked into the official results, the 2004 polls gave victory to Bush. In the subsequent studies of the 2004 exit polls that took place, two things stood out about the after midnight exit poll findings:

1) False background info was used to establish the final exit poll... (way too many Bush 2000 voters were cooked into the recipe), and

2) A false explanation of "Reluctant Responders" to describe why the raw numbers lead everyone to believe Kerry won.

Through history exit-polls proved to be an accurate estimate of the winners and losers. That is why news networks have doled out millions upon millions of dollars for the polling.

But in 2004, the exit-polls failed, and there has been much discussion here as to why those polls failed. The consensus is that the cooking of the poll numbers with the fraudulent machined votes caused the error.

We still have the vote stealing machines and we can expect those machined official results to be as dirty as possible.

Question is: Can we expect the crooked machined vote counts to conflict with the 2008 exit-polls as badly as they did in 2004?

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lizzieforkerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 12:13 PM
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1. Yep, IMHO
Also they will spin the early Obama votes some way.
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 01:25 PM
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2. Please read this
You may recall that they "fudged" the exit polls in 2004, and the only reason we have the "raw" numbers is because someone had the foresight to take screenshots before they changed.

There is an effort underway to take screenshots this year, so that we get the real data. Please volunteer to be a screenshot downloader. PM me for details.
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galloglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 03:43 PM
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3. Who is the "owner"
of the data this year?

Will it be held, as 2004 was, by some entity as "proprietary" as was the Edison-Mitfosky stuff? If so, who?

Hi, Be Free! Aloha!

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drosenfeld33 Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 12:13 PM
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4. Independent exit polls
You can volunteer to be a part of the largest independent exit poll in US history.
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