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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-08 11:32 PM
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9/4 ELECTION MODEL ( TIA ): WHY BOTH NATIONAL (OBAMA 54.5%) AND STATE (334 EV) POLLS MATTER! - x
Edited on Fri Sep-05-08 12:07 AM by tiptoe



2008 ELECTION MODEL
A  Monte Carlo  Electoral  Vote  Simulation



Updated: September 4

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  • Chart   State Poll Aggregate + Projection Trend
  • Chart   National 5-Poll Moving Average Projection
  • Chart   State vs. National: Vote Share Projection Trends
  • Chart   Battleground-State Polls
  • Chart   Battleground-State Win Probability
  • Chart   Obama Electoral Vote Simulation Frequency
  • Chart   Electoral Vote + Win Probability Trend
  • Chart   Electoral Vote + Projected Vote Share Trend
  • Chart   Undecided Voter Allocation + Win Probability
  • Chart   Monte Carlo Electoral Vote Simulation Trials
     2008 Election Model Fraud Analyzer 
  • Uncounted  &  Switched Votes
  • Chart   Effect on Obama Projected Vote Share
  • Chart   Effect on Obama Projected Electoral Vote
  •  
     
    This
    State
    National
    State
    National
    Monte Carlo
    Simulation

    Update
    Poll
    5-Poll
    2-party
    2-party
    Expected

    9/04/2008
    Aggregate
    Average
    Projection
    Projection
    ELECTORAL VOTE

    Obama
    McCain
     46.39 (51.27) 
     44.09 (48.73) 
     49.00 (53.96) 
     41.80 (46.04) 
    52.10
    47.90
    54.52
    45.48
    334
    204


        

    15-Poll

    End

    Sample

    Poll
    NATIONAL MODEL
     
    Pre   Undecided-Voter Allocation 
    5-Poll Mov Avg             2-Party          
     
    2-Party Projection  (60% UVA)
    5-Poll Mov Avg

    Trend
                                
    Rasmussen
    Gallup
    Hotline/FD
    USA/Gallup
    CBS News

    CNN
    CNN
    Hotline/FD
    USA/Gallup
    ABC/WP

    FOX
    CBS/NYT
    NBC/WSJ
    Bloomberg
    Quinnipiac

    RV vs LV
    Poll Averages


    Post-Convention
    Pre-Convention
    Total Change
    Share of Other
    Date
                
    9/03
    9/03
    8/31
    8/31
    8/31

    8/31
    8/24
    8/24
    8/23
    8/22

    8/20
    8/19
    8/18
    8/18
    8/17

    Size
                
    3000 LV
    2771 RV
    805 RV
    1835 RV
    781 RV

    927 RV
    909 RV
    1022 RV
    765 LV
    1000 RV

    900 RV
    869 RV
    1005 RV
    1248 RV
    1547 LV

    LV avg
    RV avg
    Total

    8/31–9/04
    8/17–8/24



    MoE
                
    1.79%
    1.86%
    3.45%
    2.29%
    3.51%

    3.22%
    3.25%
    3.07%
    3.54%
    3.10%

    3.27%
    3.32%
    3.09%
    2.77%
    2.49%
    Obama
                
    50
    49
    48
    50
    48

    49
    47
    44
    48
    49

    42
    45
    45
    45
    47

    48.3
    46.8
    47.1

    49.0
    45.8
    3.2
    92.1
    McCain
                
    45
    42
    39
    43
    40

    48
    47
    40
    45
    43

    39
    42
    42
    43
    42

    44.0
    42.3
    42.7

    42.8
    42.6
    0.3
    7.9
    Other
                
    5
    9
    13
    7
    12

    3
    6
    16
    7
    8

    19
    13
    13
    12
    11

    7.7
    10.9
    10.3

    8.2
    11.7
    -3.5

    Spread
                
    5
    7
    9
    7
    8

    1
    0
    4
    3
    6

    3
    3
    3
    2
    5

    4.3
    4.4
    4.4

    6.2
    3.2
    2.9

     
    Obama
                
    49.0
    48.8
    48.4
    47.6
    47.2

    47.4
    46.0
    45.6
    45.8
    45.2

    44.8
    44.6
    44.6
    44.8
    44.4
    McCain
                
    41.8
    42.4
    43.4
    43.6
    44.0

    44.6
    42.8
    41.8
    42.2
    41.8

    41.6
    43.0
    42.2
    42.4
    41.4
    |
    Obama
                
    54.0
    53.5
    52.7
    52.2
    51.8

    51.5
    51.8
    52.2
    52.0
    52.0

    51.9
    50.9
    51.4
    51.4
    51.7
    Win Prob
                   
    100.0
    100.0
    93.9
    97.0
    83.7

    82.3
    86.1
    91.8
    87.1
    89.2

    86.7
    70.5
    81.0
    83.5
    91.5
     
    Obama
                
    54.5
    54.1
    53.3
    52.9
    52.5

    52.2
    52.7
    53.2
    53.0
    53.0

    53.0
    52.0
    52.5
    52.5
    52.9
    McCain
                
    45.5
    45.9
    46.7
    47.1
    47.5

    47.8
    47.3
    46.8
    47.0
    47.0

    47.0
    48.0
    47.5
    47.5
    47.1
    Spread
             
    9.0
    8.2
    6.6
    5.8
    5.0

    4.4
    5.4
    6.3
    6.0
    6.0

    5.9
    4.1
    5.0
    5.0
    5.8
    Win Prob
                   
    100.0
    100.0
    97.0
    99.3
    91.7

    91.0
    95.0
    97.8
    95.1
    97.1

    96.2
    88.5
    94.5
    96.0
    98.9
     

     
    The Obama surge in the national polls continues. He leads the National projection model by nine points, 54.545.5%. He leads the State model by 52.147.9% with 334 expected electoral votes. Since state polls lag the nationals by 2–3 weeks, the State vs. National vote share projection Trend should tighten. Obama could expect 400 electoral votes within the next few weeks — just in time for another October Surprise.

    The “dead heat” claimed by pollsters, bloggers and the media is a canard — unless they are factoring fraud into their models and not telling us. The media desperately wants a horserace, and so they fail to adjust the polls for undecided and newly registered voters. They avoid McCain’s gaffes, flip-flops and plagiarisms, while he supports the most unpopular president in history.

    And now they say that the race will tighten, because Palin will rally the base, has a strong personality and the executive experience that Obama lacks. And on top of all that, she understands Putin, because Alaska is near Russia. That’s like saying you’re qualified to be a heart surgeon, because there’s a hospital across the street from your house.

    In a true democracy, this election would be a slam dunk.
    ...

    Full update: 9/4 ELECTION MODEL: WHY BOTH NATIONAL (OBAMA 54.5%) AND STATE (334 EV) POLLS MATTER! (TIA)



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    SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 12:13 AM
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    1. I'm guessing that in the
    "sample size" column LV means Likely Voters and RV means Registered Voters.

    I wonder how they are figuring out who is actually a likely voter.

    I also wonder if the polling is correctly picking up what may well be a huge number of younger, first-time voters who are almost uniformly for Obama. Indeed, a lot of those young people have been strongly influencing their elders to vote for Obama.

    The other amazing thing, as I look over that chart, is that the most recent Rasmussen and Gallup polls give Obama a 100% win probability. Wow.
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