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FullCountNotRecount Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 03:20 PM
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OH Vote Suppression: Fewer Machines in Dem Precincts!
Edited on Sun Nov-14-04 03:21 PM by FullCountNotRecount
Usually there is 1 per 100 voters. Most Dem precincts had 5 voting machines in the Ohio Primary. Election Day they had 3 voting machines with 1 voting machine that usually broke down. Some poor old lady had to try and fix machine while people were standing in line for hours of course. In Kenyon College there were 2 machines for 1,300 voters. That's why those heroic American citizens stood in line until 3 in the morning.

Source: Counselor Petroikas (sp) Election Protection Attorney in Ohio on Election day as he told Cliff Kelley on public affairs program in Chicago WVAZ-FM 6-8 CST Sunday, November 14, 2004.
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NJ_Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 03:22 PM
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1. Imagine how discouraged they feel...

... to know that regardless, most of their votes did not count...
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 03:43 PM
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2. I noticed the same thing in New Orleans vs. the outlying suburbs...
New Orleans is overwhelmingly Democratic, yet New Orleans was chosen over the richer, more industrial areas for the newer model machines: the AVC model. The lines of people waiting to vote were horrendously long.

I found it odd that New Orleans was chosen for these new voting machines, rather than areas in the suburbs that are broken down to handle a more steady flow of voters.

I was able to get a list of all the parishes' numbers of precincts, numbers of machines, & the types of machines used in each, but the most valuable information - how many registered Democrats/Republicans are in each parish - is nowhere to be found.
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ramblin_dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 03:44 PM
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3. Who is Petroikas exactly?
Is Election Protection an organization of some sort?
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Pastor of Deaniacs Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 07:40 PM
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4. Does anyone have any data on if there were people standing in line
When the polls closed?

Or the wait times?

I realize the fact that there are less poll machines there is WRONG. But did it affect the number of people able to vote?

What counties were these?
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kerry2win Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 08:03 PM
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5. all I know is
Whoever is responsible for anyone waiting in line 7 hrs shouldn't have a job. I personally know of elderly people who's absentee ballot wasn't recieved so they were told to fill out a provisional ballot, but because of health problems this was impossible for them to do. I'm sick to death of the tatics Blackwell has performed suppressing the rights that people have to vote. I hope justice is returned to him.
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liberal_in_GA Donating Member (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 08:23 PM
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6. I think these sorts of tactics are violations
of the Voting Rights Act. People who had to wait an inordinate amount of time to vote should file a federal class-action suit against Blackwell. Wonder if that would get his attention?
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 08:43 PM
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7. YES!!! This is voter suppression isn't it?
Edited on Sun Nov-14-04 08:45 PM by Carolab
It's ILLEGAL under HAVA and Ohio statutes.

WHAT IS GOING ON?

This is crap--an investigation so that they can see what changes need to be made to the legislation????

What changes? That NO ONE is allowed to vote anymore because they might be prevented from doing so?

Let's write Election Protection and DEMAND an explanation!

It is sponsored by People for the American Way (Ralph Neas, president)

http://www.pfaw.org/pfaw/general/default.aspx?oid=17412
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lexicon089 Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 12:46 AM
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8. Democrats controll democrat countys
Get a grip, if there is voter fraud going on it is by the democrats that are in control of the democrat voting counties. take some tin foyil off sheesh.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 12:49 AM
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9. You suggest that there are NO republicans in any Dem county.... HA!
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pointsoflight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 12:53 AM
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10. The distribution of voting machines...
...was decided on at the statewide level by republicans.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 12:54 AM
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11. Before you make that charge, investigate
Some people were claiming the same thing in Philadelphia, and try to understand that it was in fact Republicans who were running the show in the Dem precincts.

Sheesh! Take the blinders off.
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