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Pokey Anderson Donating Member (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:43 AM
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A SAMPLING OF MISCONCEPTIONS & OUTRIGHT LIES ABOUT ELECTIONS
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 10:33 AM by Pokey Anderson
A SAMPLING OF MISCONCEPTIONS &
OUTRIGHT LIES ABOUT ELECTIONS


by Pokey Anderson

April 7, 2008


"We wouldn't be able to get enough people to count real ballots" is just bogus, when viewed in the context of all the energy and money the whole rest of elections are piled high with.

"These voting machines work."

"Well, they work well enough."

"They have been federally certified."

"They have triple redundancy."

"If anything was wrong, the logic & accuracy test would show it."

"If anything went wrong, it was the fault of the voters. They don't know how to vote."

"If anything went wrong, it was because the pollworkers did something wrong."

"Corporations own the counting software, and it's a trade secret, so citizens can't know it, or know about it. Same with the results of the certification testing."

"No one handles your ballots except election officials, and state police who transport them."

"Everything that might be vulnerable is locked up at all times."



"Vote by mail and absentee ballots solve all the security vulnerabilities of elections."

"Voting by email is convenient, and should be adopted because convenience is the most important thing about elections."

"If everybody got a receipt to take home with them, that would solve all the security problems. If somebody stuffed the ballot box with ghost votes ... oh, wait, that would never happen."

"Scanning a picture of each ballot and posting it online would be a slam dunk, easy, cheap solution to ballot security. Everybody checking their ballot later would be dependable. This would be so much easier than just having 5 citizens per 1000 voters hand-count the ballots in public the night of the election."

"No insiders ever attempt to steal anything valuable, and there is no serious threat to elections from hackers, candidates, officeholders, zealots of various kinds, foreign governments, or criminal organizations."

"There are no financial incentives to steal an election; various industries and individual corporations barely care who is in office, or what regulations or contracts are legislated."1

"If someone tried to steal an election, everyone would know."

"No one could steal an election except by a few votes, maybe a percent or two."

"There are only a few ways to steal an election. The electronic ways would be too difficult or costly for anyone except a very few people in the entire country." 2

"There is no way somebody with a flash drive could plug it into a DRE (electronic voting machine) and reprogram the entire election, leaving no trace of their theft."

"DREs are great. Bolting a printer onto a DRE, one that prints out a long strip of cash-register-type paper, with curling paper and quickly fading ink, is not like putting a new paint job and new fuzzy dice in a Ford Pinto."



"The media would be on an election fraud story like white on rice, if there ever were any election fraud. Everyone would know about it right away."

"The US Attorneys in the Department of Justice would investigate any hint of election fraud or substantial flaws."

"No money ever changes hands between vendors, election officials, and consultants that could be characterized as bribery. And election officials never approve a multi-million-dollar purchase order for new equipment from a vendor, then go to work for the company that just got the order."

"The Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice would investigate and prosecute any attempt to deprive minorities of their right to vote." 3

"If a close election for US Congress had obvious flaws, say, 18,000 voters whose votes did not register, then Congress would step in and prevent the dubious winner from being seated in Congress. Congress would demand a revote, or some meaningful resolution of the problem."

"If an election had obvious flaws, and was litigated, the courts would step in, and demand meaningful resolution of the problem."

"It's easy to find attorneys to take these cases, and they are quick and inexpensive to litigate."

"Recounts are easy, inexpensive, the ballots have a 100% safe chain of custody from Election Day to the day of recounting, and the recounts always prove that the election was clean and accurate. In fact, no one has ever been convicted of rigging a recount."

"It would be too costly to do elections right. This will have to do. What possible consequences could there be if the loser were allowed to take office?"

"There will always be long lines on election day. This has absolutely nothing to do with officials using DRE voting systems, which have the slowest rate of voters-per-hour of any system."

"The most important thing about elections is that the media get the results quickly, that night. And, electronic counting is always the fastest."

"DREs are the cheapest per voter, when a comparison is done with optical scan or hand-counted paper ballots." 4

"Even if DREs (electronic voting machines) are completely unverifiable and unverified, as long as they are accessible for disabled voters, that justifies that 100% of voters can't be sure their votes were counted."

"DREs and only DRES work best for helping disabled voters vote."

"Optical scan elections are the gold standard, and because they have paper ballots paired with electronic tally systems, they cannot be stolen."

"There is no way somebody with a flash drive could plug it into an optical scan voting machine and reprogram the entire election, leaving no trace of their theft."

"Election officials are too resistant to change, and they would need many years to change a system."

"What we really need more of is Voter Confidence. The crazy activists just stir things up, make people less confident, and discourage people from voting at all."

All of the above are false, at least part of the time. What we currently have is Voter Con instead of Voter Confidence. The country's "elected" officials have become unhinged and disconnected from what The People want.

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Note 1: The U.S. federal government is the largest consumer of goods and services in the world, spending over $230 billion annually on goods and services. There are 34,785 registered lobbyists. That's 65 lobbyists shadowing each member of Congress. "Between 1998 and 2004, the amount of money spent on lobbying the federal government doubled to nearly $3 billion a year, according to the Center for Public Integrity." ("The Press: The Enemy Within," by Michael Massing, New York Review of Books, Volume 52, Number 20 · December 15, 2005 http://www.nybooks.com/articles/18555)

Just one industry, the big pharmaceutical companies, spent nearly $109 million and hired more than 800 lobbyists to ensure the passage of the Bush Administration's $535 billion Prescription Drug Bill. Just one energy bill (signed in August 2005) included subsidies to the oil & gas industry of $6 billion, subsidies to the coal industry of $9 billion, and nuclear power subsidies of $12 billion. (Public Citizen, http://www.citizen.org/cmep/energy_enviro_nuclear/electricity/energybill/2005/articles.cfm?ID=13980)

But, the largesse going to Big Pharma and Big Oil is chump change compared to the spoils going to defense contractors. Between 1997 and 2004, the twenty largest Pentagon contractors gave Washington's political elites $33.6 million in campaign contributions, and invested $390 million in lobbying Congress. The investment paid off, yielding those same weapons companies $558.8 billion in federal contracts. ("Randy Cunningham's Crash Landing: The Duke and the Enterprise," by JEFFREY ST. CLAIR, November 29, 2005, CounterPunch, http://www.counterpunch.org/stclair11292005.html)

Note 2: Software-driven elections difficult to steal with a flash drive? Study after study says, no, it's not difficult, and can be accomplished with as little as one-minute access to the machine. For one study, see "Security Analysis of the Diebold AccuVote-TS Voting Machine," by Prof. Ed Felten, et al. of Princeton. Executive Summary: http://itpolicy.princeton.edu/voting/summary.html. From the full study, page 14 and page 2, http://itpolicy.princeton.edu/voting/ts-paper.pdf:

"Our demonstration vote-stealing applications can easily be generalized to steal votes on behalf of a particular party rather than a fixed candidate, to steal votes only in certain elections or only at certain dates or times, to steal votes only or preferentially from certain parties or candidates, to steal a fixed fraction of votes rather than trying to ensure a fixed percentage result, to randomize the percentage of votes stolen, and so on." ... "Anyone who has physical access to a voting machine, or to a memory card that will later be inserted into a machine, can install said malicious software using a simple method that takes as little as one minute."

For the cartoon version, see a 5-step illustration at http://www.flickr.com/photos/joshillustrates/414916629/sizes/l .

Note 3: Guess how many cases of voting discrimination the Civil Rights Division in the US Department of Justice has brought? According to the Los Angeles Times: "From 2001 to 2006, no voting discrimination cases were brought on behalf of African American or Native American voters. U.S. attorneys were told instead to give priority to voter fraud cases, which, when coupled with the strong support for voter ID laws, indicated an intent to depress voter turnout in minority and poor communities." ("Bush's Long History of Tilting Justice," by Joseph D. Rich, Los Angeles Times, March 29, 2007, http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/033007J.shtml)

Note 4: In one study, Miami-Dade Florida tripled their costs when they brought in DREs. They spent $1.4 million in overtime costs alone to support its ES&S touchscreens. Back-up batteries for each of the 7,200 ES&S touchscreens - at $147 each - totaled more than $1 million. ES&S support staff in advance of elections has been as high as $1,100 a day, per person, there, while Broward County reported that it ponied up support staff rates as high as $1,800 a day. Yet, election officials around the country whine that they "can't" get people to come in one evening and hand-count paper ballots. If they offered people $200 for an evening's work to hand-count, their next problem would be controlling the crowds who wanted to sign up and do that. Even with that generous pay scale, the entire nation's votes could be hand-counted for about 87 cents per voter, and hand-counting in public at the precinct is the real gold standard of accurate, transparent elections. Hand-counting would be much cheaper than the current erratic, untrustworthy, hackable and non-observable elections using software, either electronic touchscreens or optical scanners. (DRE cost numbers are from "Paperless, Touch-Screen Voting Costs Soar," Herald Today Manatee-Brandenton-Sarasota, May 29, 2005, TERE FIGUERAS NEGRETE Knight Ridder Newspapers, http://www.votetrustusa.org/pdfs/MiamiDadeDumpsDREs.pdf)

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A researcher, writer and broadcaster, Pokey Anderson has interviewed dozens of computer experts, attorneys, journalists, election officials and citizens involved in election issues around the country over the past five years. A portion of her research was included in a cover story on election vulnerabilities for The Nation by Ronnie Dugger. Her research on some of the security vulnerabilities of electronic voting machines appears in "Peering Through Chinks in the Armor of High-Tech Elections," http://www.votersunite.org/info/PeeringThruChinks.pdf. A recent short article is "Are Elections Very Important?" http://www.wheresthepaper.org/PokeyAndersonSept07AreElectionsVeryImportant.htm .

She co-anchors The Monitor, a national and international news show on KPFT Radio in Houston. Previously, she spent a year researching the Enron collapse for a book with former Enron VP Sherron Watkins.

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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:51 AM
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1. I guess they think if they keep repeating it , then it's true.
"There is no way somebody with a flash drive could plug it into a DRE (electronic voting machine) and reprogram the entire election, leaving no trace of their theft."

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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:16 AM
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2. "A conspiracy that big would need hundreds of people to keep their mouths shut."
"Someone would talk."

Great post Pokey, thanks! :hi:
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Pokey Anderson Donating Member (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:37 AM
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3. Thanks, all!

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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:20 AM
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4. Thank you.
Seriously, thanks.
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galloglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 01:06 PM
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5. K n R # 5 !!
You're the best, Pokey!


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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 01:27 PM
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6. K N R #10 ... nt
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:30 PM
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7. Excellent compilation, Pokey!
Thanks for all you do! :patriot:
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Pokey Anderson Donating Member (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 12:10 AM
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8. Thanks for the encouragement, and recs!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 12:17 AM
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9. I didn't know you posted here. I loved this compilation
and put it in the Sunday Electrion Reform News thread.

Cool. :)
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 05:10 AM
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10. Great post! K&R!
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emlev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-02-08 11:51 PM
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11. Wish I'd seen this when you first posted it! It's great! Thanks.
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