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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 09:44 AM
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What is a fraud audit? . 'We Have Truth'..Update from BlackBox site
I haven't seen this posted on DU yet, Sorry if it's a duplicate...I love the last line "We Have Truth"

SATURDAY NOV 13 2004:


What is a fraud audit?
A fraud audit is not the same as a recount. It does not presume innocence. It does not make the assumption that if there is an anomaly with a benign explanation, it's okay to stop investigating. Any embezzler (or vote manipulator) worth his salt will build in an explanation that makes it sound like it could be an honest mistake, or a "glitch." Any investigator worth his salt knows you have to look deeper.

Forensic auditing begins with indicators, like oddball statistics, mismatched records, or secretive, obstructive behavior. The next step is to obtain diagnostic documents. Later steps may include pulling all the ballots for hand recounts.

Bev Harris, founder of Black Box Voting, has interfaced with law enforcement, including the FBI, state attorneys-general, the IRS, local police, and banking authorities, in several previous investigations during her work as an investigative writer. Her methods for isolating fraud have resulted in convictions or settlements from embezzlers and financial fraudsters. Black Box Voting is the first publicly funded, independent consumer protection group to investigate this election using forensic auditing methods.


Irresponsible media
You may have seen recent stories in the media (ABC News, Salon.com), and at other voting integrity Web sites like VerifiedVoting.org, telling you there is no reason to believe suspicions of fraud in the 2004 election. In fact, no member of the media nor any organization has done any real forensic auditing to determine whether there was or was not fraud. Trust in our electoral process is critical to our democracy. We need the right kind of investigation into anomalies, using appropriate methods.

"Feel-good" statements, dismissive of real concerns into voting integrity, are not responsible. The truth is what it is. We might see something very uncomfortable unfold during these investigations. Or, maybe not. It's still too early to tell, but the evidence is mounting.


Snoopy 50-year-old women
Think of this like an assets investigation in a bad divorce: One party may have things to hide, the other party (we, the voters) wants to find out the truth. If you are looking for hidden assets owned by your ex, you don't call in a computer scientist from a university. You enlist the help of private investigators, accountants, lawyers, and your plain old common sense. In fact, snoopy 50-year-old women have proved invaluable in investigating voting machines.

This is not a computer problem. It is not something a reporter who spends four hours researching a story can pronounce judgment on. We have been surprised to see prominent scientists announcing "results" before the data is in. We don't know what happened on Nov. 2. We will find out.


Here's what Black Box Voting is doing to investigate appropriately:
We are doing forensic analysis of the available evidence. We are targeting specific locations based on criteria indicative of fraud.

Why we can't disclose our documents yet

Initially, we hoped to have everything public all the time. This resulted in butt-covering behavior on the part public officials, which hampered our investigations. Therefore, we adjusted our methods to keep critical investigations under wraps. That's just the way it has to be right now.

Isn't it too late?

We are dealing with well financed people who are trying to run out the clock. They probably will succeed in that. However, we probably will succeed in proving fraud. What we have going for us is this:

- Public outrage: We read your letters and hear your anguish on the phone. Do not let go of those emotions. Your job is to focus those emotions into stubborn, relentless, nonstop pressure to make sure that there will be consequences for any and all electoral fraud.

- Law enforcement. There are still plenty of honest cops. Also, in our experience, different law enforcement agencies don't always get along, and where one fails us, another may not.

- We have the courts. (Somewhat.) Not all judges are unfriendly. They vote too. We can follow the example of tobacco industry lawsuits, launching many lawsuits, then sharing discovery and strategy until at last, we prevail.

- We have the media (barely). Network TV has not yet been able to get its brain around the story of electoral betrayal in a 2-minute news byte. For the time being, you must be your own "network TV." Don't count on TV to spread the word. Instead count on America's spirit of self reliance. We will prevail. Be the media.

- We have the Internet. Use it to share information at every level -- instant messaging, e-mailing, listservs, blogs, forums, Web sites, announcements, online media, online documents, film and video clips, audio clips, and any way that you can imagine to use it effectively. The Internet allows us to respond without boundaries, quickly, in unpredictable ways.

- We have truth.

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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 09:59 AM
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1. I'm glad that you posted this and...
I am REALLY glad that Bev and her colleagues stopped reporting on each and every detail of their investigation because, as you say, it gives the opposition the opportunity to put up excuses, or smoke screens. I can be patient and still keep the emotion, regardless of the outcome!
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:01 AM
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2. I agree
I think the article is validation.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:25 AM
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3. Source?
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neohippie Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 10:33 AM
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4. Source is www.blackboxvoting.org
It is an update to their website done Saturday I think. Go to the site www.blackboxvoting.org and see this for yourself.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 11:10 AM
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5. They Want Stubborn I'll Give Them Stubborn
To tell you the truth until I saw the difference in the exit polls and partial vote count, I was never an activist. But this, this stealing of my right to vote gets my blood boiling.

I am notorious for stubborn. Just ask any one who knows me. Once I get something in my head, I don't stop until I reach my goal. I've never sent letters or e-mails for any cause. I've never given to political campaigns, but now, since 5 Nov I've written 15 letters and e-mails to congress, GAO, the media. I've sent money and I'm glued to this INTERNET.

To some of you this seems like nothing. You have been fighting for a long time. Don't worry there are others like me who are just finding out about this and maybe we can help share some of your burden. I'll stay here until all the votes count, fairly and legally.
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 11:15 AM
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6. fasttense, welcome to DU! But, correction:
it's INTERNETS! Just ask Chimp! LOL!

:toast:
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floridadem30 Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 11:15 AM
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7. I am trying to write 15 a day. Let's keep it up
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IAMREALITY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 11:18 AM
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8. Hmmm
"I am notorious for stubborn. Just ask any one who knows me"

You're a Woman, Ain'tcha....

Actually Shit, are you my Wife???

:P
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idiosyncratic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 01:23 PM
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16. Welcome to DU . . . and bless you for your newly found activisim
:hi:
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 01:37 PM
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18. Hey, I like your style
And a hearty welcome to DU! I'm so glad to see so many wonderful new people joining us. Does my heart good.

:toast:
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momzno1 Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 01:40 PM
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19. there must be lots of us new activists
we are cut from the same cloth. I am like a dog with a bone when I get involved and this election has made me a rabid dog (lovely image) but I am NOT going to stop until we get our democracy back!
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 11:22 AM
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9. Phone records will tell much...
I suspect. If the election was hacked there will be phone records at times with missing log entries. The FOIA requests should also involve incoming phone records to tabulators. If we are lucky and it was not a previously planted software bug but rather a dialup attack the phone records will prove unathorized access to the tabulators.
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 11:27 AM
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10. Oh, shoot, yourout. I didn't think about that. Interesting! n/t
And, welcome to DU, my friend! :toast:
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 11:29 AM
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11. Thanks for the welcome...wish I could start a post.
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 11:33 AM
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12. Just keep replying to different threads. Say hi to folks and then viola,
you'll be able to post! That's how I did it!
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 11:34 AM
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13. How many replys till you can start a thread?
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 11:35 AM
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14. Never mind 10 is the magic number.
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 11:48 AM
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15. Did you get to create one? Hooray!!! n/t
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idiosyncratic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 01:24 PM
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17. Welcome to DU and thanks for pointing that out!
:hi:

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