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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:44 PM
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Anyone involved with screwing over FL & MI Should Quit-Elec Reform-Fraud & Related News Wed-2/13/08
Edited on Wed Feb-13-08 01:47 PM by kpete
Election Reform, Fraud, & Related News, Wed 2/13/08
02.13.2008


Florida and Michigan Count

"Anyone remotely involved with screwing over Florida and Michigan should quit.





It's because of people like Brazile and others that we're in this mess. Her other big screw up was Gore in Florida in 2000. Need I say more?



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A prominent civil rights leader has told the Democratic National Committee that refusing to seat delegates from Florida and Michigan would disenfranchise both states' minority communities.

In a Feb. 8 letter to DNC Chairman Howard Dean, NAACP chairman Julian Bond expressed "great concern at the prospect that million of voters in Michigan and Florida could ultimately have their votes completely discounted." Refusing to seat the states' delegations could remind voters of the "sordid history of racially discriminatory primaries," he said. ... ..

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/02/12/america/Delegates-Blacks.php
NAACP head calls on Democrats to seat Florida, Michigan delegates

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... The DNC has over-stepped their authority in the first place.

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The DNC caused this mess. The campaigns had to play it as it was presented. That's the way it should stay. I'm against any further re-voting. Clinton took the heat for staying on the ballot in Michigan, and the negative press when all those "uncommitted" refused to vote for her, which was the Obama campaign's plan. Their choice. They have to live with the consequences. In Florida, everyone had the same advantage, with Obama even running a cable ad after coming off his South Carolina rout of Clinton.

That said, Obama has a chance to win this outright, not by arguing that Michigan and Florida don't count. Frankly, he needs to win another big state besides his home state of Illinois. Texas and Ohio offer him that opportunity. If he can then the mess the DNC has created will be a moot point.

And as for superdelegates being involved, with Donna Brazile threatening to quit the DNC if they play a role in selecting the nominee. Anyone remotely involved with screwing over Florida and Michigan should quit. It's because of people like Brazile and others that we're in this mess. Her other big screw up was Gore in Florida in 2000. Need I say more?

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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:53 PM
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1. Why is it only election theft when its a Republican doing the theft?
:rofl:
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 01:53 PM
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2. Let's make a list.
Edited on Wed Feb-13-08 01:55 PM by Dr.Phool
1. Bill Nelson should quit.
2. Karen Thurman should quit
3. The entire Democratic portion of the Florida Legislature should quit.
4. Nearly every DEC Chair in Florida should quit.

As for unindicted co-conspirators

Debbie Wasserman-Shultz, Alcee Hastings, Tim Mahoney, and a few more should quit.

These are the people who screwed Florida over, and want to give the other 48 states, who played by the rules, the finger.

We wanted to be relevant so bad we became irrelevant.

:cry:
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:07 PM
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3. Include Granholm, Stabenow, Dingells, et all the rest in MI
that got us in this mess. Pull all the MI supers outa those chairs.

Yank them out so hard their heads will spin for a month.

http://www.demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/superdelegate-list.html
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 02:36 PM
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4. It's not too late to have a re-do
Edited on Wed Feb-13-08 02:37 PM by truedelphi
The idea that Hillary wants the rules changed now that she campaigned and won in the two states where the other candidates realized that the rules clearly stated there would be no advantage to campaign - it shows her duplicity.

If she wants the votes of the delegates for those two states so badly, then let's re-do the primaries in Michigan and Florida.

Period.

You don't change the rules of the game after the horn honks to end the fourth quarter!
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 01:37 PM
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7. but it IS too late to get Edwards on the ballot, right?
why did Michigan and Florida break the rules, and why did Hillary agree to the rules,
yet she broke them?

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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 01:55 PM
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8. Good question. And my head spins while I contemplate
Edited on Thu Feb-14-08 01:55 PM by truedelphi
Not surprised by Hillary wanting to change the rules.

But definitely furious that the people in those two states were treated so badly by their Democratic "betters" in the party. Shame!
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 11:00 PM
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9. Can you please show where Hillary broke the rules?
:shrug:
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-13-08 06:10 PM
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5. MI got royally screwed -- delegates don't count, and a crime to possess the list of voters Dem/Rep
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 01:35 PM
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6. HILLARY'S SOVIET STYLE ELECTION IN MICHIGAN
Where she was running against - herself, pretty much.

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