**GEMS election results**

[shraby]

<http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=gems+election+... >

[jhgatiss]

1. I think that...

it frightens me that search works so easily!

[eowyn_of_rohan]

48. Does it strike anyone else as odd...

That these all up on the internet so neatly and that they all say "gems" only appears in links pointing to the pages?

[high density]

2. Ugh

Look at all of those votes being stored in unsecure Microsoft Access databases! It's like a nightmare.

[Clovis Sangrail]

5. those are not access files

they may have been generated by access, but all the ones I looked at were either .htm's or .html's

Nothing unseemly.

That said, it's still rather frightening looking at the data paths provided.

I'm sure some of them have kept all of their web content on a separate machine from their actual count data... or at least a separate directory structure.

I'm also sure that some of them haven't, and have provided an excellent starting point for somebody to begin attempting exploits.

[high density]

8. Yes, those are HTML files

But if they're using GEMS then they're storing their votes in Microsoft Access databases. Those HTML files were generated by GEMS from the content in the databases.

[nodictators]

46. Results 91 - 100 of about 75,200 for gems election results 2004

Live Free or Diebold

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. ph my fraking god, not even Russia ran their elections

this way

[uhhuh]

4. Funny thing too. look at this one, pulled at random

http://www.laramiecountyclerk.com/county_city_results.h...

105%? Interesting,huh?

[shraby]

6. I'll kick this thread

[Selteri]

13. more than a ittle scary NT

[FormerOstrich]

25. The 105%

is on the line "Times Counted". I can't figure out what that is?? Anyone know.

What I did find interesting is I found two out of five I checked have incorrect totals. Check it out:

Total Votes 63765
KERRY / EDWARDS 20254 31.76%
BUSH / CHENEY 43252 67.83%
BADNARIK / CAMPAGNA 208 0.33%
My math 63714

http://www.co.gaston.nc.us/BOE/results.htm

Total Votes 372099
Times Over Voted 0
Bush-Cheney REP 123472 33.18%
Kerry-Edwards DEM 244211 65.63%
Cobb-LaMarche GRN 534 0.14%
Badnarik-Campagna LIB 937 0.25%
Peroutka-Baldwin CON 349 0.09%
Nader-Camejo POP 1994 0.54%
My math 371497

http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/eletmpl.asp?url=/cont...

So what's up with that?

[westcoaster]

32. Possible write-ins

It's possible that the votes missing from your total were write-ins for candidates not on the official ballot -- its not implausible that out of 63,765 voters in one county, 51 (Less than 0.08%) registered protest votes by writing in names not on the ballot.

[FormerOstrich]

34. Perhaps, but doubtful...

I noticed on some of the other ones they displayed a line "Write-In" and included the number of votes.

I suppose that the "Write-In" line might be a configuration setting which would explain why some, but not all would show it. I doubt it, but I can see it might be feasible.

Any other ideas?

[pointsoflight]

33. One thing I can tell you...

...from everything I've read about the software is that the code is absolutely horrific. Computer programmers literally find it laughable. Even the internal documents show that the software fails miserably and is full of bugs. Even keeping the fraud issue out of it, no way should this crap be used in our elections.

[JusticeForAll]

38. OK looking at North Carolina

and doing a last digit verification (adding up only the last column to see if a correct result occurred) you have to scroll all the way down to the results of Boards of Education before you find vote tallies that do not add up to 100%. It is very curious why only certain election categories have this anomaly and a large chunk do not.

I think write-in candidates can explain away much of the discrepancy, but why would they not include such an important category from the results?

Depending on how NC conducts its voting, I find the absence of over-votes interesting too.

[noamnety]

42. the Montgomery NC results are odd

I know people keep brushing it aside by saying it's "dixiecrats" but I'm having a hard time understanding that a 46% lead for the Dem senator shrank to a 32% lead for Kerry.

[JusticeForAll]

39. lol even at the top of the report

Registered Voters 38080 - Cards Cast 40108 105.33%

I'm laughing but I don't find it funny...

[noamnety]

40. Funny - laramie did a recount that's also screwed up

http://www.laramiecountyclerk.com/recount.htm

[noamnety]

41. this page is even better

http://www.laramiecountyclerk.com/federal_state_races.h...

Registered Voters 38080
Total Votes 39879

BUSH/CHENEY REP 25951 65.07%
KERRY/EDWARDS DEM 13171 33.03%
BADNARIK/CAMPAGNA LIB 154 0.39%
PEROUTKA/BALDWIN IND 109 0.27%
NADER/CAMEJO IND 421 1.06%
Write-in Votes 73 0.18%

[ParanoidPat]

7. Bless you!

ROFLMAO!

I don't know how to thank you.

[shraby]

9. Ran across it by accident.

[TexasChick]

10. shraby, is this what Bev Harris has been talking about and is trying to

audit these results?

[shraby]

11. I think so..not sure. But it's Gems she's looking into.

[ParanoidPat]

14. You've got it!

This is exactly what Bev is talking about.

Nice find.

[shraby]

16. Now to copy them and

compare with state sites. Should we send them all to Bev?

[TexasChick]

17. It wouldn't hurt! Get them while they are still there! n/t

[kuozzman]

12. Quote from congressional testimony in May of 2001:

The use of a proprietary Microsoft operating system in a voting machine and the fact that the current standards provide us with no control over this use is particularly troublesome! Microsoft is currently in the midst of an antitrust case -- which is to say, it is in an adversary relationship with the Federal government! Thus, the company has great reason to be interested in the outcome of elections.

Quote from congressional testimony in May of 2001:

[snot]

15. Have we copied these files

So that if there are subsequent changes, we'll have evidence?

[shraby]

18. It says over 17,000 pages

That's a lot.

If we are going to copy them, we should organize it.
I'll get the first 10.

[uhhuh]

20. copy first. organize later

You can add the state name to the search to reduce the all over the place results, like this:

http://www.google.com/search?as_q=california&num=10&hl=...

[ParanoidPat]

19. With 66,800 files to copy.......

.......the more people grabing them, the better!

[shraby]

21. Some of these are Primaries

I got the first 10
Got the second 10

[uhhuh]

22. limit the search to within the last three months

That will help. Also, we should assign states to different people, I think. How bout it?

[shraby]

23. Sometimes the state isn't given,

just the county.

Bev might like to have the primary elections also so I'm picking them up to..I'm going right straight through and grabbing every one.

Starting page 3 now.

[uhhuh]

24. You're right

I'm getting some of them too. I'll skip the first few pages.

[shraby]

26. Here's a bunch for someone

It was one of the google entries in the Gems bunch:

<http://find-it.wa.gov/search.asp?nb=0&as=0&tid=53 >

Another one for Polk co. Florida
<http://polkelections.com/content />

I getting page 4

If anyone is grabbing, name the page numbers you get.

[shraby]

27. Page 5

[uhhuh]

28. strange...check ozaukee county, WI on page 5

They appear to have no registered voters in the 2004 general and primary elections. I find that...odd.

On edit: it appears they had a judicial election earlier this year with no registered voters, it wasn't a primary:

www.co.ozaukee.wi.us/Elections/2004SpringGeneral.htm

[shraby]

29. Question...should we get municipal elections and

school elections too?

[shraby]

30. I quit at Frederick Co., Maryland

Kick this thread

[uhhuh]

31. kick before bed

I got a bunch, but there are so many!!!

Got to the bottom of pg.8. Collincounty,TX would not open. Kept failing. Someone see if you can get it.

[sadiesworld]

35. .

[shraby]

36. Soon as I get around, I'll

go back to collecting the Gems pages.

[shraby]

37. Keeping this kicked

[shraby]

44. COPY THOSE PAGES!!!!!!! n/t

[noamnety]

43. gogebic MI is odd

http://www.gogebic.org/election.htm

straight party tickets broke like this:
Republican Rep 1048 30.68%
Democratic Dem 2330 68.21%

president broke like this:
G BUSH/D CHENEY Rep 3935 46.51%
J KERRY/J EDWARDS Dem 4421 52.26%

(saved)

[greenmutha]

45. Kick! n/t

[CAcyclist]

47. kick!

[uhhuh]

49. Anyone still working on this?

Kicking for an answer. And exposure.

[Chili]

50. shraby, you are doing incredible work!

[greenmutha]

51. Kick! n/t

[greenmutha]

52. Kick! n/t