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spooked Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:27 PM
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Machine Recount Shrinks Republican's lead from 1,674 to 9 Votes!

They are done with the machine voting recount and are still counting absentee votes as well as "affidavit".

THIS IS A HUGE DISCREPENCY WITH THE ORIGINAL MACHINE NUMBERS!

http://www.thejournalnews.com/newsroom/111304/b0313sena...

Spano maintains lead over Stewart-Cousins in 35th District

By THE JOURNAL NEWS

Original publication: November 13, 2004)


State Sen. Nicholas Spano carried a 153-vote lead over his opponent, Westchester County Legislator Andrea Stewart-Cousins, at the end of the sixth day of ballot counting yesterday in the 35th Senate District.

The lead was nine votes lower than the previous day, and the race remained too close to call.

Since the count began a week ago, election workers have finished tallying voting machines and more than two-thirds of the absentee ballots. Another 1,561 absentee and 3,491 affidavit ballots remain to be counted.

Spano, a Yonkers Republican, had a 144-vote lead in absentee ballots, in addition to a nine-vote lead on voting machines, a figure that was recently revised. The initial voting machine count gave Spano a 54,120-to-52,446 lead over Democrat Stewart-Cousins, also from Yonkers.



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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:31 PM
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1. Check your headline please ...
" ... State Sen. Nicholas Spano carried a 153-vote lead over his opponent, Westchester County Legislator Andrea Stewart-Cousins, at the end of the sixth day of ballot counting yesterday in the 35th Senate District.

The lead was nine votes lower than the previous day, and the race remained too close to call...
"



:hippie:
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spooked Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:33 PM
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3. Did you read THIS part? It IS kinda buried, I know...
Edited on Sat Nov-13-04 09:35 PM by spooked
"Spano, a Yonkers Republican, had a 144-vote lead in absentee ballots, in addition to a nine-vote lead on voting machines, a figure that was recently revised. The initial voting machine count gave Spano a 54,120-to-52,446 lead over Democrat Stewart-Cousins, also from Yonkers."

I'm saying THE MACHINE COUNT difference is now 9 votes. They are reporting the numbers for each type of voting.
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splat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:40 PM
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4. tough crowd n/t
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:31 PM
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2. Yeah, right-- we're imaging all of this
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:47 PM
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5. Write these HACKS and tell them they left out the big DROP
What a bunch of pukes.

They didn't bother to MENTION, did they, that the lead dropped from 1674 to 9????

Get them to issue a correction on this!
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:50 PM
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8. What was the difference between
Kerry and Bush there?
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 10:26 PM
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10. That's not all they didn't mention
In fact most articles about this race fail to mention some significant things. At the start of the election, the democrats charged that there were already votes on the machine for Spano before voting started (can't find the damn link where I read that) and that 22 of the machines seals were broken or missing. http://www.wnbc.com/politics/3902820/detail.html
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noserotonin Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 11:27 PM
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29. The machines were tampered with
Kineta, I must have read the same article that you did.

Here's another article that's a little more forceful about the allegations of fraud. (http://www.nynewsday.com/news/local/wire/ny-bc-ny--35th... ) Major stuff was left out of the topic's linked story.

I'd read somewhere else that the machines that were used were older electronic ones which could be "preloaded" with votes, but I can't find that article anymore.

Anyway, I sure hope the Democrat wins. Even better would be some hard evidence of vote tampering coming out of the hearings.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:50 PM
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6. The total drop in Spano's lead is close to 1,500 in Machine counts alone
They didn't tell you that, but it is right there in the numbers.

Old lead = 1,600
New lead = 150

interesting way of phrasing that, huh...
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spooked Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:55 PM
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9. Nice way of putting that!
n/t
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gnofg Donating Member (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:50 PM
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7. Yonkers
Does anyone know if these two grew up in Yonkers and what if they did what high school they went to?
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spooked Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 07:13 PM
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11. UPDATE: The Democrat now LEADS in Machine Votes by 263 Votes!!
http://www.wstm.com/Global/story.asp?S=2544415

With most machines recounted, Spano trails Democrat
November 14, 2004

WHITE PLAINS, N.Y. Andrea Stewart-Cousins, the Westchester County legislator who challenged incumbent state Senator Nicholas Spano, took a lead today as election workers double-checked voting machines in the 35th Senate District.

Jonathan Rosen, director of the state Democrats' campaign committee, says Stewart-Cousins was up by 263 machine votes in late afternoon.

That was more than enough to offset a Spano lead of about a dozen votes in early counting of absentee ballots.

A week earlier, the unofficial election night tally had her behind by 16-hundred-and-74 votes.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 07:17 PM
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12. That means that it was an almost 2000 vote swing! Is this evidence?
What more do you want?

Nearly 100,000 vote race. 2000 votes where wrong in machines, apparently each one. That is a full 2% difference. If the same thing happened in Ohio, a recount would make Kerry the winner.
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spooked Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 07:20 PM
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13. You got THAT RIGHT!! Kerry WON this election
Does anyone still have any doubt??
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 07:25 PM
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14. Can I get a HERE HERE if anyone agrees with me and Spooked?
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 07:40 PM
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17. HERE HERE!!
:toast:
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 07:42 PM
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18. It's actually "hear, hear!" but you got it!! Hear, hear!!
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 07:44 PM
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20. woops... Hear, Hear!
Sorry about that...
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 09:27 PM
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26. Absolutely - here here
too bad they weren't also recounting the presidential race on this one.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 09:29 PM
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27. i mean HEAR! HEAR! too ;-) n/t
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 09:36 PM
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28. hear hear!
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JusticeForAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 04:09 AM
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33. hear hear! n/t
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witchhazl Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 07:26 PM
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15. Why are they so cagey? Is this area Republican?
Apparently they're finding big discrepancies in the machine count of the votes, right? Why aren't they reporting that forthrightly?

I need more information, or I guess I need to read these articles & numbers more closely.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 07:30 PM
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16. What I would really like to know is their explination of
why the vote count was soooo different on election night and how those numbers got to be so wrong. Also, I would like to hear how they did the recount of the machine tallies.
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spooked Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 08:08 PM
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23. There are more registered Democrats in that district.

http://www.dscc.net/show.php?page=news&id=69

"By rough count, registered Democrats in the 35th District (which includes most of Yonkers and all of Mount Pleasant and Greenburgh) outnumber Republicans by 88,000 to 50,000..."
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idiosyncratic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 07:43 PM
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19. How many other Democratic candidates lost because of this
kind of stuff. If local candidates are switching places in the final results, imagine what the results would be for the National results for Representatives, Senators . . .


and of course, President!
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4democracy Donating Member (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 08:00 PM
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22. What about Tom Daschle, was his race close going in to the election?
I know someone said it was very unusual for a senate leader to lose their re-election bid. I don't think he was very well liked in shrub's White House.
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angrydemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 07:57 PM
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21. Hear Hear!!!!! Hear Hear!!!!!!!!
Kerry won this election I don't care what anyone say's! I am as sure that Kerry won as I am that my name is still the same as the day I voted! These people that don't beleive that Kerry won are the one's I don't understand!
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 09:17 PM
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24. Another Case similar to this SAY IT WITH ME THE MACHINES HAVE TO GO!
http://www.indystar.com/articles/4/193887-1704-127.html

Computer glitch found in Franklin County ballot-counting


The Associated Press
November 12, 2004 2:28 PM


BROOKVILLE, IND. -- A Democrat gained enough votes to bump a Republican from victory in a county council race after a recount prompted by a computer glitch in optical-scan voting.

The glitch in the Fidlar Election Co. vote-scanning system had recorded straight-Democratic Party votes for Libertarians, and vice versa.

When votes in southeastern Indiana's Franklin County were recounted by hand Thursday night, Democrat Carroll Lanning leaped from fifth to third in the three-seat at-large commissioners race and Republican Roy Hall fell to fifth.

Lanning gained 628 votes in the recount and beat Hall, 4,564 to 4,470, county Clerk Marlene Flaspohler said.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 09:23 PM
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25. HEAR, HEAR AINDEPENDENTTEXAN!
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 11:35 PM
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30. does anyone know if this is usual..
for a few races to be recounted and have new result? in past elections I mean..
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xpat Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 04:25 AM
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34.  Fidlar Election Co.??????????
Sounds to me like one of those occupation names, like tinker, cobbler, etc. So there's a fiddler diddling the voting machines. LOL!
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 01:36 AM
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31. Wow. Wow. And Wow. Great find!
This is a classic example.

This happened all over the country.

This is one big fucking scandal.

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illuminaughty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 04:04 AM
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32. kick n/t
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 08:26 AM
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35. Important recount
This recount will be followed closely, eh? Is there anyone on the ground there who can go to the elections office and get first hand info? We need all the details: how were the votes recorded, machine type, how the recount was handled, etc. First hand info, anyone?
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Godspeed_Democrats Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 09:21 AM
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36. Something has got to give sooner or later
Thank God for this site, because it seems like I`m the crazy one here in Florida.

I know John Kerry won this election.
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