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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 03:22 PM
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NY: Voted down - Election machines fail to win state certification

Voted down

Election machines fail to win state certification

Sunday December 17, 2006
OPINION

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While no one would argue that reform is needed, and wouldn't it be wonderful if the systems were uniform, this is a case where New York's lack of haste may be to its benefit. Concern is growing over the ability of a hacker to access electronic voting machines. And on Thursday, state Board of Elections Co-chairman Douglas Kellner acknowledged: "There is not a single vendor whose machine can be certified in its current format."

The board passed on the decision of choice to counties, but has the duty of certifying their selections.

Kellner's honest assessment means that having new machines in place by September of next year is unlikely. It also means that new machines would not be tried out in 2008, because it is a presidential election and the state would not want to run an untested system during such an important year.

The rest of the nation would be wise to pause and consider New York's reluctance to hop on board this electronic voting train. Are they really confident, on the eve of a very important presidential election, that their systems are tamper-proof, or that they have adequate backup paper trails that could be verified?

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nradisic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 03:30 PM
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1. Now that sets an example...
Go NY!
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 03:31 PM
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2. Recommended and kicked
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 03:31 PM
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3. Are opti-scan equipment certified and used in NY?
are you only talking about DREs?
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 03:34 PM
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4. Both, or, er. neither.

Other than a lever, the only machine certified in NY is a Ballot Marker--the AutoMark.

And the paper ballots marked by AutoMark in NY are (...are you sitting?), Hand Counted!

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PeterPan Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 06:18 PM
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7. Populex, Avante vote-Trakker, and Sequoia Advantages
were used in New York in november as well.

Populex (11 counties) and Avante (36 counties), like the AutoMARK (15 counties) were used at vote centers for disabled accessibility. Sequoia was used in Saratoga County only.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 09:41 PM
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8. Well thanks, Peter.

I hadn't been aware (or forgot) those other Ballot Markers.

To be sure, the Avante is used as a Ballot Marker though is capable of acting like a DRE. Is that your understanding.



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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 03:50 PM
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5. Good news.
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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-17-06 06:10 PM
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6. Anybody know how and why they all flunked the tests?
Edited on Sun Dec-17-06 06:15 PM by Bill Bored
Other states might be able to learn from this.

Woops! I forgot, the rest of 'em already certified all this junk!
That's a shame.:nopity:
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