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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 01:28 AM
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I watched the Princeton Video- diebold TS hack? what was in my pocket?
Go here:

http://itpolicy.princeton.edu/voting/videos.html

SO I am watching the video... about 1/3 thru, I see the voter card, that the voter must insert to enable the process, and what do I see?



This is a shot of my laptop, with the same card I had in my Pocket, laid out on the keypad. Now you say, what was I doing with a DIEBOLD card in my pocket? I had just come from the Laundrymat, they use a system where you get this card, insert it in a machine, put money in the machine and then the card is taken out and inserted in the washingmachine. Its like a debit card to pay for your washing and drying.

Isnt that cute?
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 01:38 AM
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1. Did you rig the washing machines so that everything comes out blue?
:evilgrin:

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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 12:04 AM
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45. This thread got hijacked, and I traced it back to Wilms, its your fault
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 12:25 PM
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54. You have no real proof, you only have your cockamamie conspiracy theories!
Take off that tin-foil beret before you embarrass us any further!

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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 01:40 AM
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2. A rocket in your pocket,
baby? :evilgrin:
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Coes Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 01:43 AM
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3. Diebolded laundry
it didn't come out clean, did it?
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 01:45 AM
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4. Hehe...
:D !
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 01:59 AM
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5. OK have some fun........ . . . . .. .
These cards are all over the country, they are easy to get. Get the reader, read the card..... and copy them, vote like 20 times.........
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:13 AM
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7. Are you spanking me...in public?! :)
I'm going to have to charge you extra. :evilgrin:

But seriously, are the cards really exactly the same, because you know there are plenty of Democratic, Green, etc, folks who would be able to do this too, no?

Does Diebold think all liberals and such are Boy Scouts?
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:06 PM
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12. Shame on you Foger, you should not vote 20 times..nor 40 ..nor 400
nor 4,000.. not that that it makes any difference to that little card. One can program it for any number of combinations..
But No One would think to do that... :eyes: Nope that's never happened... :sarcasm:
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 08:57 PM
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29. Sorry Melissa, I dont know what I was thinking.....


Oh.... thats what I was thinking

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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 09:21 PM
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32. LOL! Woo Hoo! Good Looking ...Guy!.. I mean.. Sign!...
Edited on Thu Sep-14-06 09:22 PM by Melissa G
Yeah, Good Looking Sign! Impeach BUSH and The whole Nasty Stinkin' mis administration he rode in on!
:toast:


More LOL.. Would it not be better to have a No Right Turn in the background of your sign?
Just thinkin... :think: :pals:
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 09:56 PM
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36. I'm just a middle aged fart... (single)
Edited on Thu Sep-14-06 10:00 PM by FogerRox
no right turn... LOL.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:01 AM
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6. My father always says to me.. Roger, dont be a smartass.......
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:15 AM
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8. Are you asking me "Who's your daddy"?
Cuz' that's extra, too. :-)
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 08:58 PM
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30. Watching Kojak on DVD?
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 09:30 PM
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33. You're thinking of the catchphrase "Who loves 'ya, baby?"
And the answer is "we do".
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:28 AM
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9. Guess what else
There's $50 machines that program them.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 12:58 PM
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11. Bingo, we have a winner
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 07:51 AM
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10. It's a standard "smart card" format
many credit cards are the same (only with colorful logos on them)
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:53 PM
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13. Feeling really stupid here, but Foger, are you saying the laundry card
is interchangeable with the VOTER card???/
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 03:16 PM
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14. yup, see post # 10.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 03:47 PM
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15. Foger, did you see the story from Maryland where the cards were
Edited on Thu Sep-14-06 03:57 PM by Kurovski
"accidentally" left behind? Is it possible that someone reprogrammed the little suckers while they sat unattended?

If so, perhaps someone who knows more than I do about this might want to post a comment at the end of that Washington Post story.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 03:55 PM
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16. Of course its possible, damn easy is more like it.
Though it could have been a mix up, How would one tell the difference 'tween a "R" card or a "D" card in a primary?
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 04:03 PM
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17. Well, in the article it is said that the workers didn't know how to fix it
Wouldn't they then just try another card in order to fix it? I had the impression that each card would contain all ballots.

Or are the cards they speak of just used to bring the computers online?

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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 04:08 PM
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18. did it switch your clothes out with someone elses? n/t
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 04:36 PM
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19. No, my blue shirts all turned red...... .. .. . .. . .. . .. LOL
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 05:08 PM
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20. Too funny!
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 10:05 PM
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38. It was a computer glitch. And it wont affect the outcome of....anything
that matters!
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 10:40 PM
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39. The Tide never turns, All we hear about are blue shirts turning red,
Edited on Thu Sep-14-06 10:54 PM by Kurovski
never red shirts going blue. Why Duz that happen? Always the Bold Gain of blue to red. It makes me want to SHOUT!
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 09:45 AM
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48. Kurovski, You are TOO PUNNY!!! n/t
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 11:49 AM
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51. I knew I was taking a Wisk with that post.
And now I've lost all Wespect.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 09:52 AM
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49. the problems were all human error
agh
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 05:13 PM
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21. Rolling on the floor and choking on my laughs! Pounding floor!
This behavior is so unbecoming and its all your fault! :rofl:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 05:21 PM
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22. Red, whitewash, and blue.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 07:41 PM
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26. I have a nice pair of BLACK pants, a sheriff wouldnt let them in the door
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 08:11 PM
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28. So you went in PANTSLESS?
At any rate, you should contact your representatives and the NAACP.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 09:07 PM
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31. Yes I will, PFFFFit









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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 09:32 PM
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34. What's up with that picture?
You SAID you were de-pantsed.

Or did they remove something from your basket?
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 09:58 PM
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37. dont mess with my pants









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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 11:22 PM
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40. Are you accusing me of having some unwholesome designs upon your pants?
I shall take this opportunity to remind you that you are the one who had originally entered your pants as a fit topic for conversation.

I entered later.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 11:29 PM
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41. agent provoqator, instigator, who let this creep in here
You are the one who needs the smart card... PAL

LOL

Plus you are off topic, straighten up and fly right.... PAL







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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 11:35 PM
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42. Ahhh, tell it to 'yer alert button punk.
But seriously Foger, nice pants. :evilgrin:

What's a "Provdagator"?
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 11:41 PM
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43. Are you a lert? I'm a lert, I am wide awake.
Agent provocateur, I had to use spell check, gesse.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 11:51 PM
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44. Linux Emergency Response Team?
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 05:22 PM
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23. this is off topic but damn dude
look at all those windows up! you need firefox!! :hi:
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 07:40 PM
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25. LOL, well that is my 1st new computer
about 1 month old, $500 for 80 gig hard drive, 512 ram, wireless. About all I can afford for now. Does firefox tile the windows on screen? Plus I want to go MAC, maybe before my next life.........

...but you are right.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 08:06 PM
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27. firefox rules
with firefox, you have one window open, with all the sites you want to view, open in separate tabs. you click on which tab you want to view the site you wanna see. also, instead of just 'bookmarks', you can have all of your sites saved at the top of the window and you just click on the site you want to go to, and it opens :D it really beats having 20 IE windows open at once :P

(and it's FREE)
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 09:36 PM
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35. Faye, the whole thread of responses is off-topic,
so, not to worry.
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diva77 Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 07:21 PM
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24. interesting that atm cards are made differently than these...
(or at least my atm card, in particular)
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 01:23 AM
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46. Small problem
Edited on Fri Sep-15-06 01:25 AM by kster
if the machine is set up to record votes, the way the hacker wants, you could slide that card in 4000 times and the hackers vote total would come up as if you voted only once.

My question is, is their a quick way to short these machines out, to render them useless or set up the card so that it puts the machine out of commission for the rest of the day, DU techies?

I think that would give us more bang for the buck.

I mean if they want a tech war, lets give them one.

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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 01:43 AM
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47. You've just made Agent Mike very happy.
But according to the princeton example, you have to get into the machine if you really want to cause a ruckus.

And that was very, very easy and quickly done so long as no one can see you.

I dunno. I'm lucky I can remember how to start up my PC each day.
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 10:25 AM
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50. That explains this guy, I saw while I was working yesterday
I was wondering what he was up to.

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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 11:58 AM
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52. He's the sole agent assigned to your case.
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 12:08 PM
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53. I pulled one of these on him
and escaped relatively unscaved.

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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 12:32 PM
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55. Unscathed too, I'd say.
So you're that couch-bouncer from Oprah? How's the whole heterosexual marriage thing working out this go-round?
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