Fed to Seek Penalties for Loss of Confidence in Presidential Election

[Wilms]

Noe pleads guilty to federal charges

Coin dealer illegally routed thousands to Bush

Thursday, June 01, 2006

Mark Niquette
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

TOLEDO —

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Federal prosecutors said they also plan to seek additional penalties because of the potential loss of public confidence in the presidential-election process.

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http://www.ohioelects.com/?story=dispatch/2006/06/01/20060601-A1-00.html

[MelissaB]

1. Potential loss?

K&R

[WhoWantsToBeOccupied]

8. The "how dare you embarrass our king, er, president" tax

[Art_from_Ark]

2. And what about Florida 2000?

Where the governor of this very key state was the brother of one of the candidates, and the candidate's campaign co-chairperson just also happened to be the one in charge of counting the votes, after she had purged tens of thousands of innocent people from the votor rolls because they probably would have voted for the Other Guy. Didn't THAT result in a "loss of public confidence in the presidential-election process"? It certainly resulted in a loss of mine

[Peace Patriot]

3. Now THAT is funny!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[EFerrari]

10. LOL! Yes, it IS!

:)

[O.M.B.inOhio]

4. Confidence -- perception -- is all politicians talk about!

Apart from the great John Conyers, no high profile Dems have been talking about an election system that works; it's been about restoring "voter confidence." God bless RFK, Jr. for exposing the *facts* about election fraud, albeit late in the game.

I don't just want a system that Americans have confidence in. I want a system that actually counts their votes correctly. And also note the snipped quote refers to presidential elections, casting 2006 midterms as irrelevant to this concern. RThe link's dead, but the existence of such an article is something good, but I suspect tinged with a reporter's unknowing bias toward pedestrian knowledge and concerns.

[alittlelark]

5. I lost confidence in 2000.... and it's been sliding down ever since.

I do respect their route - it could work well.

It just seems like we are so far past that point.


I hope there are some History Prof's here on DU that can help make honest our convoluted 'history'.

[Land Shark]

6. "confidence" is only required by Fraudsters; real elections have

checks and balances and transparency (i.e., a clean windshield facilitating information flow required for checks and balances)

Penalties for loss of "confidence"? That's about the only thing he deserves a medal for: opening some peoples' eyes.

American government is not based on trust or confidence, it's based on checks and balances.

Repeat, 300 million times.

[Senator]

7. Yes, but could attaching a penalty on that basis open the door for civil..

...class actions suits?

Once "loss of confidence" is recognized by a court as a damaging circumstance for which someone can be found liable (even criminally here), I don't see why the same claim could not be made by a class of individuals against anyone who committed an overt act to effect the outcome.

It can't be that Blackwell, and Harris for that matter, are shielded against willful acts that violate the public trust. Such as shorting machines in certain areas, and in Harris's case engaging in behavior alreadly found to be "contrary to law" by the FSC.

But beyond the elected officials, the culture of gamesmanship surrounding the election thieves has allowed them to minimize their unethical behavior with euphemisms like "dirty tricks" and "shenanigans," but does it really protect them against a valid claim of damage?

Yes, it would seem vague and not to be worth pursuing. But once a precedent is set and a penalty imposed, who's to say an action against even Rove himself, who personally met with and instructed Noe, wouldn't find a sympathetic judge or jury?

I would imagine such a case would be easy to fund, no? And the PR benefit alone would be worth it.

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www.january6th.org

[Wilms]

9. Checks and Balances

Amen.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

11. I want reparations and impeachment

Reparations for all citizens of the US.

A big fat rebate of all taxes paid since 2000, since paid
to an illigitimately elected govt.

No confidence - because there is NO reason for any confidence.