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Slit Skirt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 09:26 PM
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I hate the damn F**** media...
they are out to search and destroy us per bushies.....

making us all look like conspiracy tin foil people, rather than treating the subject matter as legit..

voter fraud
911


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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 09:30 PM
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1. I hear you my friend
But we will not let up. The 48%* will rise and be counted. :nuke:
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Carolinian Donating Member (861 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 09:38 PM
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2. Of course they're gonna try that. I don't give a shit what they call me.
We need election reform and we'd better keep pushing. They are praying the story dies quickly and quietly. Bastards.
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 09:38 PM
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3. foreign media, foreign media, foreign media
keep fighting the good fight and pray that the foregin media picks it up. hell send the info to them.

ignore the american media -- it's already a propaganda machine of the new reich.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 09:44 PM
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4. Yes, send it to the British and Canadian newspapers/TV
Send it everywhere! The more noise we make, the less they can ignore it.

This WILL NOT go away!!
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 09:52 PM
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5. Let them talk
A poster in another forum mentioned this and said the same thing happened at the beginning of the Watergate scandal. The bigger papers ignored it, the RW media called it laughable, unbelievable, and many other things. More importantly, VP Spiro Agnew coined the term "liberal media" in response to the story.

The point is that Woodward and Bernstein didn't back down. They pursued the story as far as they could take it, and eventually they won the Pulitzer Prize. In other words, they were real journalists.

Let Ann "the Man" and Hannutty call us names; let the whore media pundits call us loony. If we're all wrong, it won't be the first time. I really don't give a good rat's ass. I just want my vote counted.
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Slit Skirt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 09:55 PM
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6. the difference between this and watergate...
is you had ben bradlee and Kathryn Graham backing w/b up....not anymore ....

they media has just as much interest in covering this up as the whitehouse has

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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 10:23 PM
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9. True, but
...Woodward and Bernstein didn't have us. :evilgrin:
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Slit Skirt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 12:47 AM
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11. ooooohhh ya!!!!!!
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buzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 10:07 PM
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7. I hate the media
I think one of the issues all Americans should be pushing for is a vote that can be audited, wether you are a Democrat Rep or other. You will never have fair elections if this is not done I thought it would be a constitutional right.
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Slit Skirt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 12:37 AM
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10. yeah, wait till it happen to the other side....
then they will say it is a vote against morality...or some other bullshit
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pa28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 10:17 PM
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8. We'll have to rely on the foreign press to eventually break this.
No member of the media here (Keith Olbermann excepted) is willing to have their career destroyed by their Bush loving bosses for delving into this story. It's much easier just to go along.
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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 02:19 AM
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13. Yeah, we could blitz the Guardian with thousands of letters
to their political editor, each uniquely expressing the realities of disenfranchizement and electronic fraud that lead to the stealing of an election. :think:
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pa28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 03:19 AM
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15. Nice idea.
Contact the Guardian at [email protected]

I sent them a message including some of the known facts and asking for their help investigating the situation.
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HEAVYHEART Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:22 AM
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17. Yes
I'm glad we're talking about the foreign press. I've been emailing everybody like crazy, but I didn't think about the foreign press. I'll add that to my to do list.
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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 12:49 AM
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12. Right on!
90% of the media is just corporate fascist BS, even if it pretends to be "liberal". The supposedly "liberal" New York Times pushed lies about Iraq, lies about 9/11 (the worst disaster in the history of their town, which they COMPLETELY FAILED TO DO ANY REAL INDEPENDENT LOCAL INVESTIGATION OF!), and now lies about the stolen election. F*k those presstitutes and corporate propagandists!

The future of progressive politics will be thoroughly informed and co-ordinated through the internet, with movies, CDs and books still having some role. At least as far as local and state politics are concerned, there are a few honest papers left here and there worth talking to. But the web is by far the best way to figure out what is really going on in the world.
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Slit Skirt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:15 AM
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16. well...don't hold your breath
they just had a convention in I think it was Austin about a month ago introducing..................taaaadaaaaaa....internetII...........coming to a town near you.....no anonymous surfing....and best yet
IT WILL BE RUN BE THE CORPORATIONS!!!!!!!!

THAT WILL HAVE TO BE A FIGHT IN THE NEAR FUTURE I THINK
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 02:24 AM
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14. don't think of them as "media";
think of them as corporate public relations agents.

once upon a time the media used to be independent, but that time is long gone.
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RuleofLaw Donating Member (345 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:38 AM
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18. One good thing have come out of this
It seems pretty clear that everyone now agrees that the 200 election was stolen.

Every journalist says that 2004 is not like 2000 where there were serious problems. So it seem like the conventional wisdom that Gore actually won 2000. Even though that is not much help now !
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