Already duped in NY State thread

[feelthebreeze]

This is the chance in NY that we are fighting for. If you post or even just read this thread, you must do actions like this. It does our cause no benefit to post and not take the next step. If you are a New Yorker, do this. If you are from another State then find out what actions you can do to further the preservation of our vote and take them. Call your State Senators, your Assemblymen, and any other elected official and let them know of the misguided approach of Machine interference with our ballots and votes.


feelthebreeze

Need to push now for PBOS. Time is running short 5/3/05

From Bo Lipari, via Liz Rich:

After four weeks of inaction, the HAVA conference committee has finally
agreed to meet again. Last week, the Senate signed the certificate
reauthorizing the conference committee, and they are expected to meet early
this week to resolve the outstanding issues - voter verification and voting
machines.

Even with strong support for Paper Ballots/Optical Scan (PBOS) system among
many members, the HAVA conference committee seems reluctant to call for
outright adoption of this highly reliable, auditable, accessible, and cost
effective voting system. But by not requiring it now, the committee will
essentially punt the voting machine decision to the State Board of
Elections. And if that happens, we're facing many more months of fighting to
keep touch screen voting machines out of our polling places.

So, I'm asking you to call each of the ten members of the conference
committee early this week and tell them that New Yorkers want to vote on
paper ballots and precinct based optical scanners.

Call them and tell them to adopt PBOS, saving New York over 116 million
dollars in acquisition costs.

Call them and tell them to adopt PBOS, so that we have paper ballots for
recounts, and won't have to rely on flawed, unauditable touch screen
machines.

Call them and tell them to adopt PBOS, so that NY will have a proven voting
system that is used in 30% of the counties in the US, and will last 15+
years without need for replacement.

Even if you've called or written before, please do so again. Call as early
in the week as you can, as a decision may be reached within the next few
days.

We're going to continue our fight for reliable voting equipment no matter
what happens, but right now, for the HAVA conference committee and our Paper
Ballots for NY campaign this is our last chance, last dance.

Phone numbers are below. Please call today.

Thanks,
Bo Lipari


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The Senate Members:
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John J. Flanagan, Chair, Senate Elections Committee
518-455-2071

Nicholas Spano
518-455-2231

Serphin Maltese
518-455-3281

Martin Dilan
518-455-2177

George Maziarz
Phone: [phone]

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The Assembly Members:
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Keith Wright, Chair, Assembly Election Law Committee
518-455-4793

RoAnn Destito
518-455-5454

Kevin Cahill
518-455-4436

Helene Weinstein
518-455-5462

Fred W. Thiele Jr.
518-455-5997

The winds of change are blowing...do you feel the breeze?

[rigel99]

1. I AM FAXING my 36 Page 10 Reasons Not to Buy DRE Machines

as found on this website...
http://www.countpaperballots.com/CADoNotBuyDREMachines110.htm

I also am calling each one individually and telling their secretaries to get the fax and also to support the Assembly bill.

WE MUST STOP NY From going DRE... if we lose NY that's all she wrote, we'll never be able to get our democracy back or ever have another democratic president again...

this is so critical.. thanks for your post BO....

I'll be leaving for the OH teach-in, but will ask , does someone have emails for these cats????
I could email the link above and they could see it instantly why not to buy DRE Machines...

I have collected major ANTI-DIEBOLD evidence in Georgia.....

[feelthebreeze]

2. Excellent work rigel99...

Hope more are following suit. From speaking to them today, they are getting like messages from many. Let's tear these machines down.

[kster]

7. And you looked

for Kerry to lead. Your leading just fine. Great work. Fight Fight

[Wilms]

3. n/t

[Amaryllis]

4. kick

[feelthebreeze]

5. We had a very good day yesterday at the State Board of Elections

We had a very good day yesterday at the State Board of Elections
annual conference. Over 35 citizens from our NYVV network came out from all over New York State to spend the day conducting a voting machine survey, talking to election commissioners, distributing reports, and to hold a press conference.

The press conference was well attended by the media, and we brought
ourmessage supporting optical scan and against the vendor and lobbyist
influences that are corrupting our election processes. Our press
conference yielded some excellent footage on the Syracuse evening TV news and a good article in the Syracuse Post Standard. Check it out, the link is below.
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The day also showed that we still have a lot of work to do to reach
our local and state election commissioners. Far too many of them feel
citizens have no business commenting on how our elections are run and what we equipment we vote on. We need to do more work to convince the
commissioners of the facts about optical scan systems, even as we continue at the state and county legislative levels to win this fight for verifiable elections.
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We've still got a lot on our plate, folks, but our numbers, our
resolve, and our strength are growing.
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As I told a county election commissioner who complained to me
yesterday that NYVV had no business being at the conference:
"I understand that you're uncomfortable with concerned citizens paying
attention to what you do and demanding input into how our elections
work, but after all, they are OUR elections. You're going to have to get used to it, because we're here to stay."
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> -Bo Lipari
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[feelthebreeze]

6. Here is the above referenced article...

Syracuse Post Standard
> How Will New Yorkers Vote?
> http://www.syracuse.com/news/poststandard/index.ssf?/base/
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> 72280.xml&coll=1ndard/index.ssf?/base/
> news-0/1115196417172280.xml&coll=1
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> How Will New Yorkers Vote?
> The Syracuse Post Standard, Wednesday, May 04, 2005
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> Machines on display in DeWitt; lobbyists' influence alleged
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The voting machines with the plaid curtains and red levers will be looking for new jobs come 2006 there's no question about that. The question is what will replace them, and the company with the answer stands to make millions.

But Bo Lipari, head of New Yorkers for Verified Voting, says money and corporate influence, not the needs of the voters, could direct the ultimate decision about how New Yorkers cast their ballots.

"Software engineers say you never buy version 1.0. Well, New York is considering spending $220 million on version 1.0," Lipari said, referring to touch-screen voting machines.

Though touch-screen machines are the front-runners in New York right now,they are both flawed and more expensive than the alternative, Lipari said.

During a news conference Tuesday at the Wyndham Hotel in DeWitt, where the state Board of Elections is having its annual meeting, Lipari lambasted the board and the Legislature for allowing lobbyists to sway them. Lobbyists for voting machine companies have spent $1.2 million trying to curry favor with state legislators.

Lipari's group and others, including The League of Women Voters, want the state to go with an optical scan system, which uses paper ballots similar to the sheets used for standardized tests. They would leave paper records that could be recounted if there is a dispute.

Touch-screen systems do not have paper ballots, but can generate reports on paper. But Lipari said there are problems with touch-screen systems that can leave votes uncounted or open to fraud. In Miami, hundreds of votes cast using a touch-screen system were accidentally thrown out because of a computer coding problem. That community is considering scrapping its touch-screen machines and replacing them with an optical scan system, according to the Miami Herald.

Lipari said companies are pushing the touch-screen voting machines because they stand to make more money off them. Touch-screen units cost about $8,000, while optical scan machines cost between $5,500 and $6,000.

But Sen. John J. Flanagan, chairman of the Senate's committee on elections, said Lipari and the other detractors have not considered all the facts. He said the cost of purchasing and storing the ballots will make optical scan machines more costly in the long run. Flanagan also tried to dispel the criticism of the lobbying by voting machine companies. "This is an open process," he said.

Lee Daghlian, spokesman for the state Board of Elections, also said lobbying on behalf of voting machine companies means little to the board.

While politicians and activists were debating the merits of the different machines, Charles Reichardt and other voters with disabilities were testing the devices, which were set up in the hotel hallway. The Unadilla man, who is blind, said he found touch-screen machines and an optical scan machine that fit his needs. Both types had Braille options and devices that
allowed him to listen to the ballot being read.
"All of the machines would allow me to cast a vote independently,"
he said. That's something he can't do on New York's lever machines.
"Privacy and independence are really out the window at this point,"
Reichardt said.
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