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tommcintyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 05:17 PM
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How George W. Bush Won the 2004 Presidential Election
I came across this article while doing some research. At first, thought the date was a mistake, since it was published 17 months BEFORE the election.

As you watch the so-called Election Reform Commission tomorrow, keep this article in mind. If my suspicions are correct - let's see just how much history both parties try to rewrite.

But if they DO try, we won't let them, right?

How George W. Bush Won the 2004 Presidential Election
By Sandeep Atwal
InfernalPress.com



Purging voter lists is just the beginning: the U.S. has embraced a form of electronic voting that is unreliable, unverifiable and funded by the radical Christian right.

ES&S, Diebold and Sequoia may not be household names like Enron or Arthur Andersen, but these three companies will decide America's next president. In the 2004 presidential election, the full effect of electronic voting will be felt for the first time and these are the companies that will report the majority of the results.

Despite assurances from the corporations that own these machines, the reliability of electronic voting is under intense criticism. One of the most comprehensive examinations of electronic voting fraud came from brothers James and Kenneth Collier. In their 1992 book Votescam: The Stealing of America, the brothers detailed the long history of voting fraud over the past twenty-five years with a special focus on voting machines. American politicians and large media outlets have ignored their book, and their charges remain unanswered.

Now, their concerns are being echoed by a new group of writers, journalists and activists who have raised alarming and explosive details about electronic voting in America. While academics such as Professors Rebecca Mercuri and David Dill and organizations like the Association for Computing Machinery have carefully documented how voting systems are vulnerable to fraudulent manipulation, journalists Lynn Landes, Jerry Bowles and Bev Harris are alerting Americans to an electronic coup d'etat in the making. If their charges are true, and there is little evidence to contradict their claims, George W. Bush has already won the 2004 election.
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http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0307/S00147.htm


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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 05:28 PM
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1. nobody appears to give a flying f-k except the progressives
kiss democracy good by
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keepthemhonest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 05:33 PM
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3. we're not giving up on democracy
it is worth fighting for,isn't it?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 06:07 PM
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8. Most definietly
I'm not going to let the neocon fasicts do their shit. At least for the future generations.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 10:42 AM
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20. yes most certainly.....just venting my anger at the overwhelming
indifference of the murkin citizenry to their own suicide
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keepthemhonest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 11:56 AM
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22. understandable
we just have to spread the word and hope that moe people find out about this.It is fustrating ,when even people who believe that there was fraud,say stuff like nobody is going to do anything about it,are they?

I am!
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LatePeriduct Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 11:45 PM
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27. kick
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 05:29 PM
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2. Yup. Scoop has been on it from the start.
Don't tell me Democrats didn't see it coming.
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Mike Nelson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 05:36 PM
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4. Shhhhhh...
Let's keep this QUIET. We wouldn't want to soil Barbara Bush's beautiful mind with stuff like this!
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Sancho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 05:36 PM
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5. Bigger than the Catholic Church cover up...
I've tried to figure why this isn't the biggest investigation ever....I hope the pressure continues. We need M. Moore and Conyers and others to get moving.
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Northern Perspective Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 05:58 PM
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6. Michael Moore's looking for a new cause
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 09:44 PM
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11. Moore's film was so trivial that it was misleading.
From viewing his film,one could surmise that the worst thing wrong was that the President was dumb and that certain politicians were less than honest. It fell so far short of describing the coup d'etat and other horrible aspects that it hurt our cause.

I believe that he meant well, for what ever that's worth and that he didn't have the hard evidence necessary to effectively accuse the administration of criminal activity.
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 12:52 AM
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18. He was trying to convince those who hadn't been paying attention.
Not sure how effective that was, as most people I knew who saw the film - myself included - already knew that Bush was incompetent.
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 04:50 PM
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24. he was walking a number of fine lines
time constraints, disarming the tinfoil haters and trying not to alienate people with limited backgrounds. Not a bad job, and a damn good film.
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firefox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 06:04 PM
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7. Definition of ballot at dictionary.com
bal·lot Audio pronunciation of "ballot" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (blt)
n.

1. A sheet of paper or a card used to cast or register a vote, especially a secret one.

Congress spent $4 billion to remove the paper trail. It was no accident as even if they were that dumb, there was plenty of calls by the people to restore the paper ballot.

And can someone explain why in the hell the machines need to be connected to a phone line. Well, that is a rhetorical question as their is no reason that justifies allowing a chance of an outside source getting to a voting machine.

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LatePeriduct Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 06:14 PM
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9. This is your voice.....
This is your voice on Diebold!!!


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LatePeriduct Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 04:56 AM
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19. kicked
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vince3 Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 06:53 PM
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10. Written 18 July 2003
The author called it on the money.
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adolfo Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 09:57 PM
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12. 2006, 2008 Prediction
I predict many Republicans will win by a landslide in 2006 and 2008 if nothing is done about the machines. It doesn't take a genuis to see it.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-17-05 10:18 PM
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13. I respect your pessimism, but "the fix is in" is a public story. They
can't do this without a lot of shouting in 2006. If they do it then, there will be so much shit hitting the fan everywhere, it will blow your mind. I give you the example of Montana, a Democratic near sweep in 2005. The West is waking up, California is already in action (to wit the anti Arnold demonstrations...the guy can't even go to his own events). There is already an investor group urging divestment in companies that own "the machines." Too many people in positions of power have been burned, e.g., the judiciary (all of them, Republican and Democrat).

Remember, the first time a national Democrat cries "election fraud" is the end of the charade. If they'd get off their asses and speak up, it would coalesce the movement and the "fraudsters" would be finished.
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 12:15 AM
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15. Are the anti -Arnold demos continuing? I only knew about the one; have
their been more? If so, that is great news.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 12:27 AM
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16. Here's what's happening.
Whenever he goes to speak, a couple of thousand people show up. I don't have the links but I see them all over the place. Of more importance, whenever a CA Teachers Assn., CA Nurses Assn, of Public Safety Union member sees people gathering signatures for the special election, they call a hot line for the anti-special election group and that group dispatches several union/assn. members to that very spot to dissuade people from signing. WOW. This really rocks and it rocks hard. I'm prejudiced (being from CA and having attended college there) but things have a way of starting there and spreading. Arnold pissed off the wrong people. I also heard that the CA Teachers Assn. (essentially a union) is dunning its members over $100 a piece to raise I think $50 million (that's right) to run a campaign against the special election (which would screw teacher seniority, public employee pensions, and redistrict the state). This is very big and very encouraging.

:hi:
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 11:37 AM
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21. Wow! This is incredible. I just knew about one event; this is huge. Worth
it's own thread, I'd say.
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 12:37 AM
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17. Keep the election fraud
story alive,and there will be a dem or even a repub that will come forward,it was the most brazen thing that they could have done,stealing an election after they knew there was a wistleblower who had the scheme kinda figured out.

They are DONE. It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when the story or a dem comes out,that they will be finished.I think it will be sooner rather than later. This story is starting to surround them. NGU
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LatePeriduct Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 12:06 AM
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14. kick
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LatePeriduct Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 04:43 PM
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23. The Carter Commission is taking over Election Reform.
The claim has been made that the 2004 results are the direct evidence of voter fraud, and this has become the new talking point.

Strict reinforced regulations requiring voters to submit to all sorts of tests to vote, and killing the real movement......Vote fraud.

The Carter Commission is nothing but a shell game, a dominionist con-artist ring.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 05:18 PM
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25. LatePeriduct, you are absolutely right about that. And it's the BAKER/
Carter "commission." James Baker (Bush Cartel lawyer, Florida '00) is the co-chair! And furthermore it's a PRIVATE "commision" that is acting all "official" and intending to submit a "report" to Congress.

This "commission" is a Bush Cartel preemptive strike on the emerging election fraud evidence.

They will undoubtedly recommend that the federal government take over elections. Look out!

Part of their strategy will undoubtedly be some sops to minority voters (or outright purchases, as with the handicapped groups and electronic voting). I hope minority groups don't fall for it. They might even offer up a scapegoat or two (Kenneth Blackwall comes to mind.)

Be seriously, seriously ON THE ALERT.

The only positive thing I can say about this private, election "commission" suddenly arriving in our midst, is that the lid on this fraudulent election is about to blow off.

I think the fight is going to shape up as federal vs. state/local reform. Federal reform will be a "Trojan horse." Beware, beware!
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LatePeriduct Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-18-05 08:43 PM
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26. Beware of who you trust also.
There is a group out there who has alot of influence in this, called the WATR. They are officially not on anyone's side...

They have been sitting on almost all of the evidence related to the cult behind this, and are engaging their own agenda which could become quite serious.

Their leader has had the likes of Koko1 playing along and working with them for quite a long time, and to this day they care not about the so called enemies of democracy. Yet they have in their hands all the insider information on them.
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