Will electronic vote stealing be fixed by the 2006 midterms

[bearfan454]

or the 2008 Presidential election ? They only need to seal about 1/2 a dozen Senate seats in the midterms to have a 60 vote majority and completely get rid of all Constitutional rights. When will electronic vote stealing be fixed by ?

[Dover]

1. As long as there is E-voting there will be vote stealing....period. n/t

[bearfan454]

2. Sorry to say, but I am afraid you are correct Dover

Think what these monsters will do with a 60 vote majority in the Senate.

[Nightjock]

3. My Congressman says no way

Tim Bishop(D) is his name and he told me, "Election reform will never see the light of day because the Republicans will not let it be voted on. The only way is if the public DEMANDS it."

[bearfan454]

4. Things will eventually get so bad that

the people will revolt. But by then we won't have any rights left.

[Amaryllis]

11. My senator said same thing; he said a massive grassroots effort could make

it happen but that is the only way. We have to get really organized and then once we know what we want, do what we did to make Jan. 6 happen; massive phone, email, faxes.

[BeFree]

5. No. They will steal the midterms

Why?

Because even we are confused. Even we, who have been tracking this shit for years now are all over the place, and our message is diluted.

Even we can't agree that Paper Ballots are the answer, even though we should know better. They will steal the election again using e-voting and on our present course we are powerless to stop it.

[kster]

8. I agee

lets get a game plan. Lets go for the gold, paper ballots
hand counted .

[KarenS]

6. By "fixed" ~ do you mean that they will be able to steal an election

without a trace of fraud?? Yep, I think they will have it perfected by then !!!

[sepia_steel]

7. We are going to have to make ourselves heard

not sit back and expect it to happen again. We can only fight until then and we must do it 24/7.

[Wilms]

10. Truer words have never been spoken. n/t

[Stevepol]

9. If the past is any indication, Dems won't even speak about it.

The GA elections of 02 should have been an off-the-chart fire alarm for anybody with "one eye and half sense" as used to be said, but apparently Roy Barnes and Max Cleland don't even have one eye or half sense. They give every indication of believing that statistical impossibilities are actually possible in Georgia, as opposed to anywhere else in the known universe. They never, as far as I've ever heard or read, uttered one word about the obvious fraud. If the candidates themselves won't even recognize that fraud took place, it seems to me highly unlikely that the problem will be solved.

Maybe Dean will make a difference if he's the new DNC chair, but I wouldn't bank on it.

[annabanana]

12. Common Cause sent me something to work for here:

Here at Common Cause, our work to fix the flawed election system continues. Two weeks ago, we called on you to help us fund production costs for DVD and audio programs about the 2004 election and the need for comprehensive election reform. We needed $20,000 and you came through. Thank you for your commitment.

Last week we also invited you to tell us how you prioritized the issues on our 2005 agenda. Election reform received the highest percentage of votes, 29%, of the six issues we listed.

It's clear that election reform matters to you. That's why we are writing to you today with another request. Please call your senators and ask them to support the Voting and Integrity Act of 2005 ("VIVA 2005"):

http://www.commoncause.org/VIVA2005

This legislation will fix one of the many problems in our election system - paperless, non-recountable, flawed electronic voting machines. You have probably heard of the scandalous behavior of Diebold, the major manufacturer of these machines whose CEO declared he would 'deliver' Ohio's votes for Bush. And you may know that hundreds of computer scientists, especially those with expertise in computer security, have raised the alarm about vulnerabilities or simple errors in the software.

Now, we can do something about it. Viva 2005 is waiting to be introduced in the U.S. Senate by Senator John Ensign (R-NV). In a truly a bi-partisan effort, Democratic Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) and Assistant Minority Leader Dick Durbin (D-IL), will be co-sponsoring the bill. You can find out who your Senators are by going to this link: <http://www.senate.gov/>.

If one or both of your senators is Republican, ask them to consider co-sponsoring the bill:

www.commoncause.org/VIVA2005R

The goal is to get as many Republican co-sponsors as possible. With strong Republican support, this bill will stand a chance of passage.

Conversely, if one or both of your senators is Democratic, simply ask them to support the bill:

www.commoncause.org/VIVA2005D

Let them know that you believe a voter verified paper ballot is crucial to insuring our nation's election integrity.

Viva 2005 requires that:

1. Voters in federal elections be able to review a paper version of their ballot before it is cast and counted.

2. Paper ballots and electronic ballots produced by a voting machine must match. In the event of discrepancies, the voter verified paper ballot would be considered the correct record of the votes cast.

3. In the event of a recount or audit, the paper ballots would be used as the official record of votes cast.

As you can see, the bill is narrowly focused on the paper trail issue. For more information, read the text of the bill as introduced <http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c108:S.2437:> last year. The provisions will take effect in time for the 2006 general election. It applies only to federal elections because the U.S. Congress doesn't have jurisdiction over state elections. However, if this bill becomes law, it will have the practical effect of compelling states to follow suit.

So please call your two senators and ask them to support this important bill today:

www.commoncause.org/VIVA2005

Thank you for all you do for Common Cause.

Sincerely,

Chellie Pingree
CEO & President, Common Cause

Support Common Cause:
www.commoncause.org/AmplifyElectionReform

[bardgal]

13. YES! ALL MACHINES GONE! PAPER BALLOTS ONLY......