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spooked Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 10:35 AM
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Billboard Blitz to Rub Salt in Our Wounds
Edited on Sat Jan-29-05 11:04 AM by spooked
Look at the BILLBOARDS citizensunited.org is planning on displaying in Hollywood during the month of February, and near the Academy Awards ceremony.

Not only are these people Criminal, they're also CRUEL!!

Does anybody doubt now that we are being TOO NICE?! We need our own Billboards & they need to tell America THE TRUTH about ELECTION FRAUD!!

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=6451

Billboard Blitz to Blast Hollywood

HUMAN EVENTS has learned that a billboard blitz "thanking" Hollywood for the reelection of President Bush will be unveiled early next week.

The advertisements feature the faces of liberal Hollywood icons Michael Moore, Whoopi Goldberg, Ben Affleck, Martin Sheen, Chevy Chase, Barbara Streisand, and Sean Penn, and offer thanks to Hollywood their help getting President Bush reelected.

Two versions of the billboard were created, both "thanking" Hollywood -- the first for "4 more years" and the second for "W. Still President."

Billboard creator Citizens United, a group that advocates a return to traditional American values, has purchased the use of three billboards near the Kodak Theatre (home of the Academy Awards) for the month of February, which includes Oscar Night, Sunday, February 27.







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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 10:42 AM
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1. This is insane
Can these folks do anything about this false advertizing??
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PaganPreacher Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 12:03 PM
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35. Freedom of speech is a bitch, ain't it?
Quakerfriend, the billboard is not "advertising" anything. It is not offering goods or service to the public. Therefore, no "false advertising."

The billboards in question are an expression of political speech, paid for the speaker. As such, they are protected by the First Amendment.

Your political opponents have the same freedom and protection to speak that you do.

If you wanted to, you could rent that same billboard, put up a sign that says, "We wuz robbed!" with a picture of Bush dressed like the Hamburglar, and get your message out.

Maybe you should start a fundraiser!



The Pagan Preacher
I don't turn the other cheek.
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joefree1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 12:56 PM
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38. I have a better idea for a Billboard
Edited on Sun Jan-30-05 01:21 PM by joefree1

Download the free PDF letter size art here:
http://www.ediablo.com/small_art2/dont_blame_me.pdf

on edit: anyone want to place bets on how long it takes for the Bush image to grow a Hitler mustache? I pubished news about these billboards on the local Indy Media here:
http://la.indymedia.org/news/2005/01/121844.php

Let see how long the Billboards last. I'll post pictures when I find the boards. LOL!
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 02:47 PM
Response to Reply #35
45. Not so, Our billboards are "too controversial"
we have to start buyng billboards at sq.1
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PaganPreacher Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 03:28 PM
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46. I recall at least one controversial Dem billboard last summer...
and it didn't look like there was any censorship going on.

In Kansas City, a billboard that faced onto Interstate 35 near downtown had a picture of a black man, and the caption,

The Republicans have a plan for the future.

You're not part of it.


That billboard stayed up for at least a month (I recall seeing it twice during the span of 4-5 weeks when I was down in KCMO.)

Now, THAT was free speech! It really got people thinking, and talking. I don't know if it helped the vote numbers (there is really no way to tell,) but any example of free political speech is a good thing.

The Pagan Preacher
I don't turn the other cheek.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 08:56 PM
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52. I doubt it was a Clear Channel billboard
as are many. I was just saying it is not quite as easy, by far.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 10:45 AM
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67. It may have been "controversial" to folks like you, but it was factual...
ask the troops who are fighting your war for you. Ask those whose jobs are being relocated overseas. Ask those who have no health care...
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 11:34 PM
Response to Reply #35
59. No we couldn't.
The billboard companies would turn the ad down.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 05:22 PM
Response to Reply #35
72. Politically polarizing statements in view of public thoroughfares
Edited on Tue Feb-01-05 05:22 PM by kgfnally
create a distraction among drivers in general and make roadways less safe for the general public.

There's your argument for banning overtly political speech on billboards. Advertising is fine, slogans of a 'soft' nature are fine, but please... nothing that would make certain people- on either side, right or left- white with rage.

That has no place on the roads.
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 11:37 AM
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88. Wrong. Try putting up a "controversial" BB about the war or Bush.
You will meet a lot of resistance from the companies who "own" the BBs as well as politicians. I do think that their could be a case against this guy for using names and likenesses without consent.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 10:48 AM
Original message
About David Bossie, they guy behind citizensunited.org
Edited on Sat Jan-29-05 10:49 AM by BlueEyedSon
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satya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 01:32 PM
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26. These idiots don't even know enough to register domain names privately.
I once thought that PNAC was satire, so I looked up the domain (I didn't put the smilies in, that's how it shows up, but I left it that way because it amused me):

Domain ID :D49682011-LROR
Domain Name:NEWAMERICANCENTURY.ORG
Created On:21-Dec-2000 19:28:41 UTC
Last Updated On:24-Oct-2003 16:19:18 UTC
Expiration Date:21-Dec-2009 19:28:41 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Register.com Inc. (R71-LROR)
Status:OK
Registrant ID:C5950342-RCOM
Registrant Name:William Kristol
Registrant Organization:William Kristol
Registrant Street1:1150 17th Street, N. W., Suite 505
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Washington
Registrant State/Province :DC
Registrant Postal Code:20036
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone :+1.2022934900
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX :+1.2024636652
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:wkristol@weeklystandard.com
Admin ID:C29756037-RCOM
Admin Name:Gary Schmitt
Admin Organization:NewCitizenshipProject
Admin Street1:115017thStreet,N.W.
Admin Street2:
Admin Street3:
Admin City:Washington
Admin State/Province :DC
Admin Postal Code:20036
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone :+1.2022934983
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX :+1.2022934572
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:project@newamericancentury.org
Tech ID:C29756041-RCOM
Tech Name:Gary Schmitt
Tech Organization:NewCitizenshipProject
Tech Street1:115017thStreet,N.W.
Tech Street2:
Tech Street3:
Tech City:Washington
Tech State/Province :DC
Tech Postal Code:20036
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone :+1.2022934983
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX :+1.2022934572
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:project@newamericancentury.org
Name Server:NS.CAIS.COM
Name Server:NS2.CAIS.COM
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 11:51 PM
Response to Reply #26
80. Wm. Kristol? He's the Fox Journo who forgot to disclose
that the White House consulted him on Bush's inaugural speech--the one he praised ad naseum on the air! Looks like he's got a little bit more of a conflict of interest than has been publicized so far.
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 01:11 AM
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60. Bossie was fired by Dan Burton, no less...
...for doctoring audio tapes of Web Hubbel talking to his wife in jail.

He was trying to manufacture evidence against the Clintons out of whole cloth and get it presented to Congress. Something that used to be a felony, even among the DC/Media Analstocracy.

Prior to that (from Joe Conason):

Consider the unappetizing example of David Bossie , the right-wing researcher who worked on both the Senate Whitewater Committee and the Dan Burton -led Government Reform and Oversight Committee in the House. According to Drudge, Bossie was distressed because Connolly had supposedly promoted rumors that he is gay. This is the same Bossie whose debut in national politics involved promoting a patently fake story that Bill Clinton had impregnated an Arkansas student who then committed suicide -- with the added insinuation that she might not have killed herself.

That smear dated back to 1992, when Clinton was first running for president and Bossie was working for Citizens United, a conservative outfit that wanted to defeat the Democratic nominee by any means necessary. Not only did Citizens United try to promote this particular lie, but Bossie and a private detective actually harassed the dead woman's bereaved family so mercilessly that their misconduct was exposed by CBS News, which quoted the Bush campaign excoriating the scuzzy maneuvers of Citizens United.


Billboards are mild for these political terrorists.

-----
www.thedeanpeople.org
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 10:48 AM
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2. do they have permission to use all these people's likenesses? n/t
.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:00 AM
Response to Reply #2
5. Don't need it if the pictures were
taken in a public place.
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 11:44 AM
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89. That is not true Andy.
Name and likeness is a very serious issue. This is not a "news" org. It is a political ad with a clear agenda. Not saying I am not %100 percent sure here but regardless of where a photo is taken celebs can refuse to allow it to be used in the context of an ad for a product or an idea.

Whenever you sign a deal with a studio or a record label they always have to negotiate the use of your name and likeness. Same goes with advertisers except more of it.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 10:54 AM
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3. They should move the location of the Academy Awards- to the
Kennedy Center in Washington, D.C. and ask the mother****er to come and thank them in person.
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:24 AM
Response to Reply #3
16. No No
the last time Bush came out into a crowd it cost us 40 million dollars to protect him. The billboard don't cost us a penny
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 10:56 AM
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4. They won't last a week................
in Tinsel Town. Either that or they'll be "altered" to make bush look like the idiot he is. There are some fantastic billboard freelancers in Cali, I'm sure these won't go unscathed.
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Catamount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 09:42 PM
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56. Yeah, that's what I'm hoping! n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 10:56 AM
Response to Reply #4
83. I'll be looking forward to
it! I can't wait! And Chris Rock is going to emcee the Oscars..whoopee!
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signmike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:01 AM
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6. Remember the "OurLeader" ones? ...
I liked the alteration that said "Thanks for the yacht".
How about one showing him doing the Devil's horns salute and "Thanks for the yacht, Suckers!"

??
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:08 AM
Response to Reply #6
10. a blow below the belt from "little minded people"
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:10 AM
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12. Hi rodeodance! What's your take?
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:04 AM
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7. Let's all say it together: "Sore winners"
The repukes are just flat-out DAMAGED. They've grabbed all the power, and STILL they're angry and defensive, hostile and bitter. It's pathalogical, it really is. :crazy:
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spooked Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:08 AM
Response to Reply #7
9. That's it...what would be the reason, otherwise?
They are absolutely DERANGED and PATHOLOGICAL.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 04:38 PM
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49. they have 2 do this
because they know they R in a weakened position. The election was rigged. They know it, we know it and they know that we know, so they have 2 continuously remind people every chance they get.
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Chipper Chat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:07 AM
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8. I want one showing Bush and Blackwell embracing. And captioned:
"Thank you friend Blackwell for insuring that the American people can worship me for four more years."
There are plenty of unused billboards in Ohio right now.
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4democracy Donating Member (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 11:26 AM
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32. I would be glad to kick in a little to put up billboards in Ohio
If we all went in on it, it would not cost that much. Something simple and catchy,like the ones a Packer fan put up about Randy Moss using the credit card company ad slogan "Priceless".
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:09 AM
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11. Hollywood isn't fighting lawsuits in Ohio, Florida, New Mexico...
LMAO...and they don't have to PAY people to draw a crowd! What a jackass! Don't think, for one moment, that this is over! They don't! That obnoxious billboard is a perfect example of how they will destroy themselves! LMAO. Again! One more piece of evidence to bolster up the Stop Government Propaganda Act! Actually, this could be fun! Billboards don't cost that much to rent...Hmmm...
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spooked Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:14 AM
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13. Good point...They **KNOW** THIS ISN'T OVER!
The nice thing is that they will not enjoy a moment of peace knowing that they didn't really win the election!

BILLBOARDS...YES...could be the answer for us too!!
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:26 AM
Response to Reply #13
17. Exactly! We may be the "kinder, gentler" party, but when provoked
WE CAN BE VERY CREATIVE! Think of the possibilities...
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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:18 AM
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14. balloons filled with red paint
will quickly put an end to that BS.
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bushcrab Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:56 AM
Response to Reply #14
21. Balloon Launching
Great idea Gyre... and FUN! Homemade slingshots are easy...

http://www.frattoys.com/prodtype.asp?PT_ID=69&strPageHi...

Wish they'd put a billboard like that in my neck of the woods!
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greyXstar Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:22 AM
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15. Thank you Diebold, more like
These people will do ANYTHING to distract from the real issues. And they're too blind to see how they're enabling the fascism by doing things like this.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:27 AM
Response to Reply #15
18. They know exactly what they are doing. They aren't BLIND
regarding fascism...they promote it!
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:28 AM
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19. This will back fire on them.
It will just encourage the people he has posted on the bill board to continue to fight against the Repukes. If the 6 people he has posted felt the slightest bit of giving up the fight before, they sure wont after they see the bill board.

Not to mention it will make the rest of us try harder to block the Repukes' efforts every step of the way.

Sore winners are never appreciated by Americans. This will galvanize the left like never before. We should actually thank Citizens United.
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super simian Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:29 AM
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20. These A**holes are shooting themselves...
...in their collective foot.

Such schoolyard tactics will surely backfire into making even more celebrities even more pro-active against the Shrub. It will do the same for every progessive in Hollywood (and there are lots of us)!!!

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

Do they actually believe that this kind of infantile nose-thumbing will shame these powerful people out of their beliefs and convictions? Think again, bozos!

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

They are doing us a huge favor by exposing themselves as the hate-mongering idiots that they are. With friends like that, the Shrub doesn't need enemies (heh, heh).....

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
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googly Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 11:07 AM
Response to Reply #20
68. I think they ARE trying to instigate the Hollywood people to
become more pro-active, because in their pin heads they are
convinced the Hollywood types actually help them get votes.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 12:09 PM
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22. Ha ha ha ha so?
They dump a bunch of money on a billboard people will think is stupid in an area where it doesn't matter. So?
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ynksnewyork2 Donating Member (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 12:45 PM
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23. Too funny!
These billboards will be up during the Oscars and you know they'll get alot of coverage.
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 12:53 PM
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24. Perhaps Trey Parker and Matt Stone are involved.
After their very slimey movie, Team America, which targeted these same celebrities in a very vicious way. It made me wonder if they weren't very jealous, although I have heard they are also Rove buddies.

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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 01:03 PM
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25. Oh hell yes! Let them do this! I wouldn't fight them ONE iota over this!
this is EXACTLY the kind of thing Americans need to see. The death of the Republican party will only go that much quicker with advertisements like this all over Hollywood. Do you think we might be able to convince them to do this in all 50 states?

:bounce:
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:46 PM
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27. That's not the right billboard...
The real billboard should have diebold machines and gullible republican voters in a field with caca up to their knees, unable to smell the stench. When talking heads would ask in interviews before the election 'why are the polls so close?' I'd wait on the edge of my seat for Kerry people to say 'because too many people believe GW's lies'. Never did happen.

It's my opinion those 2 things go hand in hand for Bush's 'win'. There was fraud, but it wouldn't have been possible if so many people hadn't blindly believed the crap they were fed from (fill in the blank with favorite liar and the lying lies they told). I never believed in a million years that after seeing all of his tricks the last 4 years that 25 million people would vote for him, let alone 50 million. It's going on 3 months later, and I still can't believe it. I'm not in denial, I'm in dehell.
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Chipper Chat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 04:24 PM
Response to Reply #27
28. Just a footnote to your comment:
I saw Kerry on C-Span today (originally Thursday) talking about health care. He looked great and talked so eloquently (as opposed to Shrub's down-home jibberish). Just watching made me feel good that I voted for him. If he'd have won - we'd be on the road to recovery by now, and Dubya would be back in Crawford clearing shrubs - I mean brush.
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cindyw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 06:47 PM
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29. Is that legal? Can u use someone's image without their permission?
I don't think so.
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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 07:03 PM
Response to Reply #29
30. What I wouldn't give to see someone add a Hitler-like mustache
and hair cut to those damn billboards. That is exactly who the repugs wanted and exactly who they got.

And under the "Thanks Hollywood" add the words - "you tried to warn us." I think the similarities between the methods used by Hitler and the methods used by King Chimpy should be pointed out every chance we get. They wanna play rough? BRING IT ON.
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PaganPreacher Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 12:07 PM
Response to Reply #29
36. I love irony, Cindy! Thanks!
The Pagan Preacher
I don't turn the other cheek.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 10:37 AM
Response to Reply #36
65. Explain the irony, please...












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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 12:50 PM
Response to Reply #29
37. If it's a public personage, yes you can.
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dmac Donating Member (414 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 07:22 PM
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31. I am going to puke.
:puke:
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 11:33 AM
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33. we need to find these
please post this in the ca forum. when they get hit with the paint bombs, or whatever, i want to see the pics.
and we have to be prepared to contribute to the defense of any partiots that get in trouble over it.

i agree we should do our own.
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 11:38 AM
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34. "return to traditional American values"
Uh... Like segregation, slavery, oppression of women,
robber barons, disease, snake-oil, bribery, corruption,
neopotism, cronyism, Old-boyism... etc?

Whaahoo!

Just saying.

;)
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 02:04 PM
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39. Great Idea for billboard
Edited on Sun Jan-30-05 02:06 PM by Horse with no Name
Bush (in shades of grey) surrounded by full color flag draped caskets--billboard should say...FOUR MORE YEARS?? FOUR MILLION MORE TEARS!!


I wish I were good at photoshop to make this--maybe someone could put in on a bumper sticker or something.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 02:10 PM
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40. I'm not feeling very eloquent today so I'll just say this. Barf!
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lynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 02:15 PM
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41. The least they could have done -
- was find a better picture of Chevy Chase.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 02:43 PM
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42. Again they over-reach. Mwahahahahaha. They play right into our hands. nt
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kerstin Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 05:05 PM
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43. Jeez even the naked emperor's buddies
Edited on Sun Jan-30-05 05:15 PM by kerstin
can't find a flattering photograph of him. He looks as imperious, smirky, insecure and inebriated as ever. And I'm sure Barbara has no complaints -- she looks positively lovely!

The only ones this is going to impress are people who are already hopelessly lost to whatever it is they see in this empty-headed, projection screen of a president.
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StephanieMarie Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 05:13 PM
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44. I think I'm going to puke.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 03:37 PM
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47. When life rubs salt into your wounds--MAKE A MARGARITA!


The possibilities are endless!
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SoCalDemGrrl Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 08:35 PM
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51. KansDem, where did u get that graphic?? I love it!! I want it!!
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 04:30 PM
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48. someone needs 2 'splain 2 these
rickys that #1 - Michael Moore is from MICHIGAN; #2 - he lives in NEW YORK and #3 making documentary films does NOT make one 'hollywood'. There R 'hollywood' people who wish their films made the box office Moore's film do.
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SoCalDemGrrl Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 08:34 PM
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50. Anyone wanna bet that Clear Channel owns all the billboards?
I hate that company, it's run by Lowry Mays, a good friend of the Bushies and a "Bush Pioneer". Clear Channel has been buying up tons of outdoor advertising over the last few years (and over 1,200 radio stations). I'd love to know if Citizens United is paying the going rate for the billboards. Anyone know how we can check that out??

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Vadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 09:07 PM
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53. Yep, all those Hollywood Dems need to get some of those.......
paintball guns and do a little target shooting! LOL


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Ashamed_American Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 09:24 PM
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54. Here is a picture I made
It will soon be run in a magazine called "SLAVE" . Nothing else. No advertisement. Just the picture to speak for itself.



www.BlackEyedSundays.com
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Flatland Dem Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 09:35 PM
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55. These people just don't get it
It's almost like they view politics as an athletic contest of some sort in which they root for their favorite team. This is the sort of crap I would expect fans of one university to do in the town of a rival university after a big football game.

Someone needs to explain to them that politics is real life and has real consequences for real people.

If they're going to view politics as some sort of spectator sport, that's fine. They at least need to understand that we're all rooting for the same team, we just want different head coaches. Just because the guy I wanted to lead the team didn't get hired, it doesn't mean I'll stop rooting for the USA.

Very, very childish IMO.
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googly Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 11:10 AM
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69. Unfortunately, their tactics are winning more senators & congressman
Edited on Tue Feb-01-05 11:11 AM by googly
/woman for them. I guess the masses are not as smart as we
think. They can only understand childish tactics. Our schools
need to do a better job of educating the masses.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 12:33 PM
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79. Hi Flatland Dem!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 09:49 PM
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57. I'd be more upset at having to look at *'s face
all the time than the billboard itself. I'm not sure what exactly they're trying to accomplish, either. I do notice that Michael Moore stands out in both photos, which to me means he's the one that bothers them the most. It tells me he needs to keep doing what he's doing, because it's bothering them a LOT.

I do think a little artwork on shrub would be nice. I feel sorry for anyone who goes past the ads - I couldn't stand to look at that smirk everyday. I think it's pollution of some kind...
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 10:05 PM
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58. I'm so glad that citizensunited has so much extra money to waste on this
It's not as if there are regions of the world that could use it a great deal more. But... Why did they snub poor Spongebob?! Doesn't he get to be immortalized on the billboard, too? ;)

In LA, I give those billboards a day. Tops.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 01:29 AM
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61. ...and the point of these billboards are..nothing else than juvenile
euphoria. Does it help the poor and jobless? No
Does it help the elderly get their medication? No
Does it help protect the environment? No
Does it help homeland security? No.
Does it help your children learn English, Math or Science? No.

yes, what a waste of money.
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 01:37 AM
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62. Notice that Martin Sheen is AWOL from the "President" one...
...for fear of the bushkid looking pitiful even in comparison to a TV president.

Cowards.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 02:34 AM
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63. I hope Hollywood takes care of this with their own big BUSH CHEATED!
Edited on Tue Feb-01-05 02:35 AM by Carolab
And maybe some that say "WHAT Social Security crisis?" Social Security is solvent through 2042 per the Agency and 2052 per the OMB.
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Ashamed_American Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 07:29 AM
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64. Carolab, I like the idea.
Just yesterday I received in the mail a letter from Howard Coble's (R-NC) office about this "crisis." I assume that is the next step. Surely there is a huge campaign on the horizon to scare the world into backing Bush's reform plan.

Anywho, I plan to scan the letter after work today and put it online. In just the opening paragraphs it contradicts itself. Opening with the "crisis if nothing is done RIGHT NOW!" line. Then saying it can pay Social Security until 2042. You can't have it both ways.

www.BlackEyedSundays.com
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googly Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 05:17 PM
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71. Those are only PROJECTIONS....all depends on how well the
economy performs. If you recall in Clinton's 1st term, these
same people were projecting budget deficits as far as the eyes
can see, then the economy got much stronger and those projected
deficits suddenly turned into surpluses.

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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 06:17 PM
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73. The projections are based on accumulations "at the current rate".
Social Security is the only Federal program with a surplus, and a large one at that.
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googly Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:33 PM
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74. I am certain you are aware that our senior citizens are living
longer and their proportion as a percentage of the working
population is growing. My 11 & 13 year olds will not collect
anything when they retire after putting in thousands of $$
into the system.

The "current rate" you refer to is just that..."current" rate.
As the proportion of retired folks increases, the current rate
will no longer be valid.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:49 PM
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75. Googly, here is a chart that proves you wrong.
Edited on Wed Feb-02-05 08:49 PM by Carolab
http://www.cbpp.org/12-17-04socsec.htm

This was put out by MoveOn. Scroll down to the bottom chart and see that even if we DO NOTHING, your children WILL receive benefits AND they will receive MORE benefits than if a system of "privatization" was implemented.

The truth is that the privatization scheme will cut their benefits and furthermore they would be investing in a scheme that would be highly speculative and the fees alone will eat up a healthy percentage of anything they would manage to gain. In addition, the "transition cost" to such a scheme would pile on debt that would equal or surpass the supposed shortfall in social security if we DO NOTHING to change the system.

The only responsible solution is to rescind the tax cuts at the top of the income pyramid, implement a surcharge on incomes over $200K and/or provide incentives for employers to offer matched 401K accounts.

Privatization ONLY benefits investment funds.
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googly Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 09:49 PM
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77. Carolab, please read this post and I promise to read your link.
In my own case, I started contributing into social security in
1962 (yeah I am giving my age away LOL). I have contributed
aprox $160,000 (incl employer) into the system over the years.
And now my social security benefit is $1400/month. If I had the
option in 1962 to put 1/3 of my contributions into a total stock
market fund such as the Russell 5000 index fund, based on
ACTUAL stock market results, I would have accumulated a nest
egg of $700,000. On that amounttoday you can get an annuity
paying $3300/month or more depending on options selected.

So my monthly pension would have been 2/3x1400 + 3300 =
$4233 /month instead of the $1400 /month I am getting.

Even if social security had gone broke, I would still have
my $3300 /month.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-07-05 07:36 AM
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81. except the government takes back a large chunk of that
money you made, according to their privatization plan. I believe the amount listed in the NYT was "between 70 100%". Thus leaving you with the same retirement benefits.

Also, not everyone should be in the stock market. It carries a lot of risk.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 12:44 PM
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86. Now all that money you gave to Social Security will go away.
First that would have only worked out to $3,300 a month if you had been lucky enough (or smart enough) Not to have invested in Enron, or any other very risky and now debunked investing strategies. Also you would have to assume your investments would not have been wiped out by Bush's brother's Saving and Loan scandal. So if you happened to be smart enough and lucky enough to have invested wisely and not have been taken in by the thousands of scams out there, you would have $3,300 a month.

But now you wont even get the smaller rate of investment the federal government had planned because Bush is going to reduce even those smaller benefits. So, I'm currently 47 and have been paying in since I was 15 and I'll be lucky to get anything by the time I'm 67 (or 77 depending on what they will change the retirement age to.) Now how is this better for you and me? We paid in, it's too late to invest, we are screwed.
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NationalEnquirer Donating Member (571 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 10:41 AM
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66. Damn, I hate to say that those are funny..
Cruel, but funny.
With that smirking asshole on the left, with that god damn SMIRK.
Tell you what, whoever designed these knows that we hate that smirk.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 12:24 PM
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70. I WOULD THINK...
THAT THOSE STARS COULD SUE FOR USING THEIR LIKENESS IN A POLITICAL AD BASICALLY...WITHOUT THE PERMISSION OF THE STAR COULD PROBABLY RESULT IN A HUGE SUIT ..AFTER ALL THE ACTORS LIKENESS IS THEIR DOMAIN..AND THROUGH SAG OR AFTRA WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION COULD RESULT IN A SUIT WITH SAG AND AFTRA , AND THE ACTOR.
I COULD BE WRONG BUT BEING A MEMBER OF BOTH UNIONS...I DO NOT SEE HOW THEY COULD DO THIS WITHOUT PAYING ROYALTIES TO THE ACTORS AS WELL AS UNION FEES FOR THE USE OF PHOTOS OF THESE UNION ACTORS.
IF I WAS ONE OF THESE ACTORS, I WOULD SAY " BRING IT ON" THEN I WOULD SUE THE CRAP OUT OF THAT GROUP, AND TIE THEM UP IN COURTS FOR YEARS TO COME ..ALL BACKED BY THE UNIONS!
FLY
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Mistwell Donating Member (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 11:12 PM
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78. For the last time - it's 100% legal
Edited on Wed Feb-02-05 11:13 PM by Mistwell
1) The pictures were all taken in public;
2) The pictures are not selling a good or service;
3) The pictures are for a purely political speech purpose;

There is nothing illegal about the ad at all. It's straight up free speech. Every friggen entertainment magazine established long ago that the images of stars taken in public are fair game for just about anything - and that WAS to sell a product or service (which is less protected). For political speech, the most protected kind of speech there is, there is NOTHING illegal about.

We should respond with our own billboard - not some bullshit whine about how it isn't "fair". A suit would just give them the exact kind of attention they are praying for. We would both lose the suit AND popularize the billboards on ever front page of every newspaper, and healdine it on television news, and give massive fodder to talk radio.

PS - you need damages to have a lawsuit as well.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-05 08:56 PM
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76. Great News! This will REALLY rile up the Hollywood Dems
with money! Now's our chance to get them to advertise the fraud!!!
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 03:34 PM
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82. Thanks, spooked.
For alerting me to this prior thread.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 12:01 PM
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84. let the jethroes waste their money
that lame pro-Bush billboard isn't going to change anybody's mind, and it will probably just remind Californians why we need to keep fighting this mental patient.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 12:04 PM
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85. How much do billboards cost? Can we put something up in
red states? Even a couple of URL's to non-right wing propaganda news sources might have an effect.
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BlueTarheel Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 07:31 PM
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87. billboard is up in West Hollywood
So I'm walking down Sunset Blvd. near Doheny and I look up and see one.

And it's pathetic.

First of all, I drive down Sunset everyday and only while I was walking did I notice it. I have no idea how long it has been up there.

Now, it's at the tail end of the business area of the "Sunset Strip." It's nowhere near where the Marlboro Man used to be or anywhere near the heart of Sunset. It's in between 2 streetlights and on a curve in the road. So the chances of any drivers looking up to see it are slim. There are other billboards and plenty of palm trees blocking it, too. If they had it across the street, facing the other way, sooooo many more people would be forced to sit in gridlock with that hideous mug staring at them. But I guess they didn't want to spend that much on it.

The pics here online make it look so much better than the real life version.

The one I saw today looks more like a realtor's billboard. A cheesy one. With a bloated guy in a suit. Saying something like "I'll sell your house." * looks constipated.

Whoever made this must have used a wal-mart version of photoshop. The Hollywood faces aren't clear, it's confusing to look at and I think a 5 year old could've picked out better fonts. Most of the Hollywood people are blocked by the trees, too. You can't really see anything but a big "W" and *.

I mean, if they're going to try to "rub salt in our wounds," at least they could be clever, creative, smart, um, nevermind, I forgot who I was talking about. They don't pull it off. Not even close.

So really, it's dumb. Which I know you guys know.

Now I have to go wash out my eyes from looking at it for too long.


btw, I did post this in the CA forum.
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spooked Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 03:44 PM
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90. Thanks for the eyewitness account
I wonder what everyone will be thinking about the billboards at the Oscars.
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 03:56 PM
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91. Let's hope the celebrities will sue for using their images without
Edited on Thu Feb-10-05 04:04 PM by demo dutch
permission! Did anyone email Mike? (I just did)
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:14 PM
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92. Hahahahaaa Bush is holding ont o the lectern so he doesn't fall over
One would think they could have used a better pic of Bush - one where he's not drunk, for instance.

:)

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