First time in American history!, do we understand this?

[RaulVB]

I'm going to be obnoxiously making this point from now on.

IS THE FIRST TIME IN AMERICAN HISTORY THAT A "PRESIDENT" SINKS BELOW 50% ON HIS APPROVAL RATINGS, JUST 7 DAYS AFTER INAUGURATION!

Ok, guys?

THE FRAUD WAS THAT BAD!

[fooj]

1. Keep obnoxiously making the point!! It's a point worth making!

Peace!

[keepthemhonest]

9. sure is

hey Fooj.

[fooj]

13. We have to stop meeting like this!!!

Everythinh OK with you? It seems like you've got alot on your plate!

[NYC]

2. First time in history.

Keep reminding people.

[indepat]

3. Any voter fraud or suppression would have just been enough to assure

winning key states. The suppression speaks for itself and everyone knows its not who votes, but who counts the votes. Everyone also knows who counted the votes in critical states.

[EVDebs]

4. "Worst President, EVER" comes to my mind for some reason...

[TheUnspeakable]

5. make it every day!!!!!!!!!!! n/t

[Wilms]

6. The fact that * is not/never was the President would explain it. n/t

[troubleinwinter]

7. WORST____PRESIDENT____EVER

[Botany]

8. Right up the road from me in Deleware OH ......

..... 12 precincts that voted for Gore in 2000 had less votes for Kerry in 2004
despite the fact that more democrats were now registered in those precincts.

Sadly, I have come to the conclusion that some democrats had to been in on the
fraud as far as BOE members are concerned.

:kick:

p.s. I will always think Wyoming's 109% turn out of registered voters will be
special.

[anamandujano]

16. BOE members in Ohio were appointed by Blackwell,

dem as well as repuke, and we can safely bet they were in on it. There is no need to defend the indefensible just because they are dems, and nothing to be sad about if those that aided and abetted go down with their repuke masters.

[KaliTracy]

23. depending on the mode of operation, not everyone would have to

be involved -- in fact, if such a thing took place, I would bet that it wasn't a group effort at all (maybe individual assignments...). Others have pointed out to me when I mention that the BOEs were appointed that many times they are "carry over" -- that Blackwell just had to approve them again. But, that doesn't mean that some could have "switched" -- after all, Blackwell used to be a Democrat himself.

[troubleinwinter]

27. I have wondered about the "Dems" on the BOEs...

I wondered if they had become "Dems" on the eve of their appointments. Someone said to me that they were nominated by the Dem party. I wonder if that is true? Anybody know anything about this aspect? Anybody around here in the Ohio party that can view a little party history of some of these BOE "Dem" players?

[anamandujano]

29. to posts #23 and #27

Whenever I hear the repukes say, "dems would have had to be involved" (Blackwell 2004) or "it was a democrat who did such and such" (Lepore designing the butterfly ballot of 2000), I immediately assume they were part of the repuke team.

Not everyone would have to be involved or know the plan of course and maybe that's why we have repukes doing things that may hurt their cause, like the losing repuke in the WA state gov race.

[fasttense]

32. I agree, a lot of people calling themselves Democrats were in on the

rigging the votes for B*sh.

[EC]

10. I read off the poll numbers and number of people in the

poll (25,000 - 30,000) to my Republican Boss yesterday, and HE said then who voted for him?

[RaulVB]

11. It is AMAZING to me the level of mendacity of the corporate media

This country's democracy has been stolen by a criminal regime.

That they can be silent after reading these numbers is immoral.

[EC]

12. Their part of the criminal regime...

Carlye bought Lowes theaters last year right after not being able to prevent 9/11 (like the very next day of theaters starting to sign it), so, that showed me, that they had every other media sewed up and forgot about movie theaters...Haven't noticed if they got others ....But you can bet, somewhere up the money/ownership chain is a * or partners...

[fooj]

14. Great word! MENDACITY!!

I'm lovin' it!:toast:

[RaulVB]

17. Thank you, thank you, thank you...(n/t)

[eowyn_of_rohan]

33. Worst Ever

Worse than Hitler, because in his case he had a REAL majority of the population behind him (for awhile anyway). Expecting them to care that they are immoral is like expecting that of the Mafia. They have everyone who could say or do anything against them bribed and blackmailed, and those who aren't are in danger of being destroyed, either by character assassination or "suicide"...

[RaulVB]

15. Kerry won, look at the numbers! (n/t)

[understandinglife]

18. Friedman: "Mr. Bush is more widely and deeply disliked in Europe than any

.......U.S. president in history."

Irrespective of what your opinion of Thomas Friedman is, he just published a paragraph in his latest Op-Ed that is his assessment of what he has learned on his European visit of the past few days.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/27/opinion/27fried.html?...

"Let me put this as bluntly as I can: There is nothing that the Europeans want to hear from George Bush, there is nothing that they will listen to from George Bush that will change their minds about him or the Iraq war or U.S. foreign policy. Mr. Bush is more widely and deeply disliked in Europe than any U.S. president in history. Some people here must have a good thing to say about him, but I haven't met them yet."



To the extent we document fraud and disenfranchisement, force indictments, force prosecution, and work to impeach Bush, we may, eventually, recover some respect for America. That will only happen if "We The People of the United States of America..." do it; the Bush neocon, theocratic cabal is forever despised and discredited, as they should be.

BE THE BUSH OPPOSITION; 24/7 --- and be sure to view:
http://www.zonaeuropa.com/01467.htm

[RaulVB]

19. Probably ranks just behind Adolf (n/t)

[torque]

20. buwaaaaahaaaahaaa n/t

[KaliTracy]

24. does anyone here find it odd to have the administration calling up so

many Hitler allusions lately -- I know that it's the 60th anniversary... but I've just found some of the comments to be ironic. (sorry, can't point to any right off hand, one of those driving, listening to the radio, wondering WTF did I just hear! moments...

[fooj]

28. Those huge, disgusting W's on the wall seem to be everywhere!

I hear you! Sometimes, I am filled with disbelief! Sometimes, it's just plain fear!
:wtf:

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

26. SHUN HIM

The more people that ignore him. The more foreign leaders who turn their backs on him. The more democrats who ridicule him and his administration. The more repubs who voice opposition to his policies. The more this happens, the more disgraced he will become.

Perhaps the one good thing which could come of this is the utter destruction of the Shrub mystique, for the Entire World to see. Let him go down in flames.

[i miss america]

44. Burn baby BURN!!!

[Shalom]

21. In addition to having "President" in quotes, "sinks" should be in quotes,

since your point is "of course" that Bush was already "sunk" on Nov. 2, and needed Fraud to be "elected".

[RaulVB]

22. Well, now he is "under water", that's the point

Thanks!

[genieroze]

25. We Got VoteJacked. eom

[Beth in VT]

30. I thought is was 44% on inauguration day. n/t

[Beth in VT]

31. Did anyone see the pictures of the empty bleachers

on the parade route? Was that real or were they taken at the end of the day after everyone had left?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

34. Hey Raul. What his approval rating on election day? Is he the

first to "win" under 50 that way too? I'll look it up....

[Carni]

35. Wonder what Truman's approval ratings were 7 days in?

Truman beat Dewey by such a slim margin it was misreported in the papers right?

Just for the hell of it, I would be very curious to know what his approval rating was 7 days in ... just to compare it to bushits rating!

[FloridaCrat]

36. Interesting (non-scientific) poll results from MSNBC

January 26, 2005
If you were an Iraqi, would you be willing to risk your life to vote on Sunday? *
61600 responses
Yes 38%
No 62%


January 25, 2005
Do you think Democrats are "playing politics" with Condoleezza Rice's nomination? *
56207 responses
Yes 48%
No 52%

January 22 and 23, 2005
Do you think the Jan. 30 Iraqi elections will be a success? *
11805 responses
Yes 25%
No 75%


January 21, 2005
Do you think it's America's job to spread freedom around the world? *
46092 responses
Yes 29%
No 71%


January 19 and 20, 2005
Do you think Pres. Bush will achieve most of his goals in his second term? *
27966 responses
Yes 24%
No 76%


January 18, 2005
Are you willing to give Pres. Bush's policies a second chance? *
28439 responses
Yes 28%
No 72%


January 17, 2005
Are you feeling hopeful about Pres. Bush's second term agenda? *
30342 responses
Yes 26%
No 74%

Notscientifically valid surveys.

[RaulVB]

37. Kick (n/t)

[Peace Patriot]

38. RaulVB, could you give us a url on Bush polls?

As I understand it, his approval rating sunk into the forties leading up to the election (that's one of the reasons Zogby, for instance, predicted he would lose--impossible low rating for a sitting prez), that it remained under fifty percent the following months, and was hovering around 50% just before the inauguration.

Is that about right? And you're saying it's back to under 50%--7 days after the inauguration? I haven't been following those polls lately. Give me a url so I can quote it. Thanks!

[RaulVB]

41. Rasmussen Report

A company that Republicans LOVE TO CITE, says that his approval rating is the lowest ever after inauguration:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Bush_Job_Approval.htm

Sorry for the late reply.

[RaulVB]

39. Kick (n/t)

[detroitguy]

40. And why not?

Most voters never voted for him!

[trochanter8]

42. It'll go up now,

after the Iraqi elections, wanna bet??

[RaulVB]

43. The "posted numbers". sure

We ALL KNOW HOW THIS THING IS WORKING.

[slackmaster]

45. How long have their been "approval ratings"?

I know they existed during the Kennedy administration.

Does anyone know how much farther back they go?

[Melissa G]

46. Kick!

[slackmaster]

47. And I misspelled the word "there"

Not "their".

So there!

:dunce: