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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 10:53 PM
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Are the Ohio poll books still locked down?
Is anyone finishing what the lady was looking at when the poll books were pulled from her?
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  - No. Andy's been given full access to them.  goodboy   Jan-11-05 10:57 PM   #1 
  - Do you know any more? Blackwell no longer cares now that Jan. 6 is past?  Amaryllis   Jan-12-05 12:08 AM   #3 
  - Yes. Andy found 18 ghost votes in warren county, and 2 pages of the poll  goodboy   Jan-12-05 11:18 AM   #4 
     - Actually, Andy posts under his own name now....  Darkhawk32   Jan-12-05 11:47 AM   #6 
        - yes, one precinct, i'm sorry,.  goodboy   Jan-12-05 12:15 PM   #7 
           - Why full access now? Because it's too late to change anything?  Amaryllis   Jan-12-05 03:04 PM   #10 
              - of course  Faye   Jan-12-05 03:04 PM   #11 
              - Oh, I am SO Surprised !!! Never been more surprised in my life! :)  Amaryllis   Jan-12-05 03:30 PM   #14 
              - both, I think. my friend flew Andy up to New York for the day...when  goodboy   Jan-12-05 04:04 PM   #15 
  - but Andy said he charmed access to them. Are they all available nt  mod mom   Jan-12-05 03:10 PM   #13 
  - Contrast that to the way  bemis12   Jan-12-05 06:01 PM   #18 
  - i'm guessing some people didn't see this post?  Faye   Jan-12-05 04:28 PM   #17 
  - Can someone copy the poll books?  findTruth   Jan-14-05 02:48 PM   #21 
  - all i gotta say about that is  Faye   Jan-11-05 10:58 PM   #2 
  - All I got to say about THAT is:  troubleinwinter   Jan-12-05 03:09 PM   #12 
  - I would sure like to know if the number of votes and voters jibe.  L. Coyote   Jan-12-05 11:44 AM   #5 
  - Remember: phantoms and undervotes cancel each other  emlev   Jan-12-05 02:23 PM   #8 
     - Why we need poll book numbers. Good Point.  L. Coyote   Jan-13-05 11:48 AM   #20 
  - It was Greene Co. where pollbooks were snatched  emlev   Jan-12-05 02:28 PM   #9 
  - Good qustion.  fasttense   Jan-12-05 04:27 PM   #16 
  - In one thread someone said pages were missing from poll books. Can't  Amaryllis   Jan-12-05 08:31 PM   #19 
 
goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 10:57 PM
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1. No. Andy's been given full access to them.
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 12:08 AM
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3. Do you know any more? Blackwell no longer cares now that Jan. 6 is past?
Wonder how much tampering has gone on.
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:18 AM
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4. Yes. Andy found 18 ghost votes in warren county, and 2 pages of the poll
books missing. I would pm GodBushandCheney and ask him.
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Darkhawk32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:47 AM
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6. Actually, Andy posts under his own name now....
Plus weren't that 18 ghost votes from one precinct?
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 12:15 PM
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7. yes, one precinct, i'm sorry,.
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 03:04 PM
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10. Why full access now? Because it's too late to change anything?
and because they've had time to tamper to their satisfaction?
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 03:04 PM
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11. of course
you're not surprised, are you? :)
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 03:30 PM
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14. Oh, I am SO Surprised !!! Never been more surprised in my life! :)
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 04:04 PM
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15. both, I think. my friend flew Andy up to New York for the day...when
they get back, I'll tell him about this thread, and have him get back to you.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 03:10 PM
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13. but Andy said he charmed access to them. Are they all available nt
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bemis12 Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 06:01 PM
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18. Contrast that to the way
that Bev Harris would have gone about it. Being obnoxious and abusive doesn't inspire cooperation. Good on Andy.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 04:28 PM
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17. i'm guessing some people didn't see this post?
"No, Andy's been given full access to them."

:hi:
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findTruth Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 02:48 PM
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21. Can someone copy the poll books?
In case one can't finish his searching/finding there?
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 10:58 PM
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2. all i gotta say about that is
Blackwell and Pollbooks - WTF?
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 03:09 PM
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12. All I got to say about THAT is:
SPECIAL PROSECUTOR
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:44 AM
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5. I would sure like to know if the number of votes and voters jibe.
In the punch card counties, in precinct location with Bush and Kerry collocated on the ballot orders, do the number of votes and the number of persons in the log books coincide or not. Are there phantom votes in precincts where cross-voting switches a Kerry vote to a Bush vote?
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emlev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 02:23 PM
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8. Remember: phantoms and undervotes cancel each other
when they're lumped together. So total number of votes matching total number of voters could still be hiding this phenomenon.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-13-05 11:48 AM
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20. Why we need poll book numbers. Good Point.
Election results don't show all the discrepancies unless there are actually more votes reported than the votes cast number. Do the number of people in the poll book match the number of reported votes cast? If not, why? If votes were tallied in the wrong precinct, were votes switched?
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emlev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 02:28 PM
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9. It was Greene Co. where pollbooks were snatched
from the hands of the volunteer investigators.

I would also like to know if this work got completed, as well which precincts in Greene Co. are the African-American precincts or other precincts where disenfranchisement was being investigated. If you have this info and don't want to post it, please PM me.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 04:27 PM
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16. Good qustion.
I've been wondering about this mayself. I think we need to take a careful look at those poll books.
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 08:31 PM
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19. In one thread someone said pages were missing from poll books. Can't
remember which thread; it all runs together after awhile.
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