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Catamount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 11:49 AM
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Please visit standupdemocrats.org and vote!
Edited on Tue Jan-11-05 12:21 PM by Catamount
Sorry if this has been posted already.
Of all the people running for the chair, Dean has the most guts.
Perhaps our last hope to keep democracy alive at home????
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 11:51 AM
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1. Forget Dean.
I'm voting for Boxer!
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 11:54 AM
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3. I didn't know she was running for DNC Chair. NT
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:47 PM
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6. Does she have to decide to run for it?
Or can we just thrust the title upon her whether she wants it or not?
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Catamount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 12:59 PM
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7. Why don't you ask her?
(:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:30 PM
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9. I did ask her
I also told her to run for President.

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Catamount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:33 PM
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10. What did she say?
I'd vote for her too!
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 03:09 PM
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14. Yes, one must campaign for the job. NT
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 05:22 PM
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19. No way. I want her right where she is....
and then in the White House in 2008. ;)
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 06:44 PM
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24. No. Boxer for President. Dean for DNC
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 11:52 AM
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2. I did and...
Here's a clickable link:

http://standupdemocrats.org /


Cher
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Catamount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 11:54 AM
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4. Thanks n/t
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ZRB Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:34 PM
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26. Kick n/t
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Kota Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 11:59 AM
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5. Done, he's at 82.5 %
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:04 PM
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8. done it, hes still at 82.5 nt
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:33 PM
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11. Done. And hey --- they didn't even list Roemer... eom.
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rockedthevoteinMA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:33 PM
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12. Done Howard Dean 82.6% n/t
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Catamount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:35 PM
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13. Looks like his % is going up!
There is still hope!
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 06:49 PM
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25. done 83.1
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smartvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 03:34 PM
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15. done nt
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 04:05 PM
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16. WOO HOO!
another vote for my guy DEAN!

:dem: :dem: :dem:
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Catamount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 05:19 PM
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17. selfkick!
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 05:21 PM
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18. Well aren't I the bad little Democrat?
Coming late to the buffet, but I didn't even recognize most of those names. I am sitting next to a pile of letters addressed to my state delegates urging them to vote for Dean. They'll go out in the morning mail.
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Catamount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 05:49 PM
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20. Good for you!
:)
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jsascj Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 06:43 PM
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23. LOL! Neither did I
I thought it was just me...so happy to have company in my ignorance.
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ZRB Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 06:18 PM
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21. Done N/T
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 06:37 PM
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22. I voted for Dean, nominated Conyers for the Hall of Fame, and
entered election reform as my idea...

:kick:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:35 PM
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27. Howard got da balls! Go Howard!
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:19 PM
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32. And balls are what is desperately needed at this point.
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:56 PM
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28. Dean knows about the perils of e-voting. We must have someone who is onto
the fraud issue.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:05 PM
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29. AMEN! And I voted. n/t
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:05 PM
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30. I already wrote the DNC. At this point Dean is the ONLY candidate
Edited on Tue Jan-11-05 09:08 PM by bush_is_wacko
I can support. I would really rather have hem in the running for 2008, but he is the ONLY stand up guy/gal I've seen mentioned. I'm glad he announced today. I'll go and vote to make it official.

On Edit: Here are the current results. Overwhelmingly Dean.

Simon Rosenberg
6.5%

Martin Frost
2.0%

Howard Dean
83.3%

Wellington Webb
1.6%

Donnie Fowler Jr.
2.9%

Harold Ickes
2.5%

Jim Blanchard
1.1%
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:17 PM
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31. On another page you can also give your ideas on how to fix the Dem party!
Edited on Tue Jan-11-05 09:18 PM by Amaryllis
Guess what I told them! Its the voting machines! And tolerating massive voter suppression and discrimination and violation of state and federal election laws, and then saying there wasn't enough to change the outcome! Fix the elections! It isnt the party that needs fixing other than their ignorance or refusal to acknowledge another stolen election and the fact that they are math challenged and can't add up how many lost votes it would take to change the outcome!
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ZRB Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:34 PM
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33. I am so on your page....
It drives me nuts when 'our' guys forget that even as the election stands (without the fraud)we were not POUNCED or TROUNCED or whatever.
Almost 60 million votes for Kerry, the most ever!
When you add the discrepancies of the 'official exit polls' we won!
I don't remember the exact numbers, but something like 54% of women and 49% of men voted dem. How does that NOT prove fraud?
Anyway I hope Dean is elected as the chair, but it's hard to imagine.
But since they asked for our input, I thought they should get it. :)
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:46 PM
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34. I wanna scream when I see another of those articles talking about how we
need to change our message, move closer to the center, blah blah, analysing why we lost and what we need to do differently to win the next time!!!! There has GOT to be a way to get the message to them...WE DIDNT LOSE, YOU IDIOTS! WE WON and you let them steal another one!!!!!
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:47 PM
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35. Maybe when you fill our the form we shouldn't all say we found out about
it on DU so if we are all screaming about election reform they won't think it's just DUers?
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:56 PM
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36. Voted Dean, we need his passion and ideas n/t
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Catamount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 10:06 PM
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37. Good Point....
Actually I first heard it from Mike Malloy, and again from Al Franken.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 07:37 AM
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40. Darnit, I finally got my diatribe under their 500 word limit
and now their databases are down.

I figured election reform and election fraud would be submitted quite a few times so I went with this:

____________________________________________________________

Conservatives have accomplished a remarkable feat in a relatively short amount of time. Their dominance over the political, social and religious realms was achieved vocally and visibly. Democrats can learn valuable lessons from Republican behavior over the last twenty years if they want to salvage the liberal heritage of our founding fathers.

Too many Democrats whisper the word liberal when describing themselves. The Bush campaign lobbed a verbal grenade early in the race accusing Kerry of being the most liberal senator. Democrats winced and countered that he was not. Liberal isnt an insult. Democrats must reclaim the descriptor as a compliment. Democrats should gladly share this political perspective with the men who secured our freedoms and created this country. The word liberal should evoke feelings of enlightenment, humanitarianism, innovation, patriotism and plenty.

Democrats are the antithesis to the conservative perspective. Contemporary conservatives do not embody the classical definition as their political decisions affect negative change rather than conserving a status quo. Conservatives have convinced too many Americans they hold exclusive rights to family values, high morals, and strong ethics when their actions prove the opposite. We can have no reluctance in responding with the accusation that conservative is a label one should no longer proclaim proudly. Conservatives are the ones who should wince at this word that represents oppression, inflexibility, bitterness and crass materialism.

The tactic of repeating something until it becomes reality is an effective one. An appalling number of Americans want to be told how to think, a concept which is anathema to liberalism. Liberalism encourages individuals to do their own exploration and make decisions based on their reasoning ability. Valuing intellectual freedom places liberals at a disadvantage when appealing to a complacent electorate, but ideas and ideals are contagious. Many people may have latent beliefs that can become realized only if they know others feel as they do. Republicans have successfully exploited the human drive for inclusion through conformity. Democrats must appeal to this human need in order to convince the electorate of their desirability.

Republicans control all branches of our government yet present themselves successfully as the underdog. This approach to public relations is so effective that many people blame Clinton for anything negative and he hasnt held office in four years. The focus of accountability must be shifted! Appropriate and well-placed accountability can only be accomplished with vigilance and consistent communication. When decisions are reached which disagree with liberal principles, a very public dissenting opinion must be disseminated quickly and widely. Republicans should not be permitted to proceed unchecked simply because they have demonstrated the ability to spin any event to their advantage. Democrats must get better at publicizing the hypocrisy rife within modern conservatism by consistently challenging such behavior.

Minimize internal strife and focus on Republican actions, publicly challenge conservative decisions as affecting negative change, use strong positive language to refer to liberal issues and strong negative language to challenge the reactionary conservative agenda. Dont shy away from partisan politics or media savvy.

______________________________________________________________

Now if I can just get it submitted.
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Catamount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 10:43 AM
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41. Please keep trying.......
Very wise and perceptive, without rancour.
Great article.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 11:25 AM
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42. Thanks. It's a really stripped down version of something
I cranked out on November 3. Going from approximately 1,500 words to 499 was a bitch. LOL!

http://www.unitarianminister.org/nov3.htm

Their site did come back up and I got it submitted.

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NotNInch Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 10:12 PM
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38. Voted and Dean is now at 83.3%
I first heard about the vote on Al Franken today. Your thread was a pleasant reminder. Thanks!

While there I nominated Paul Wellstone for their hall of fame . . . a no brainer.

Sure do not agree with everyone on their list, but life is like that.

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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 11:24 PM
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39. kick
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