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Fescue4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:30 AM
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Can Bush be impeached for crimes during 2000-2004?
Bush begins his new term shortly...

Now that he is in his new term, can he be impeached for things he did during the 1st term? Or has that opporunity passed now that his 1st term is coming to a close?

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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:37 AM
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1. Yes...
Edited on Tue Jan-11-05 01:38 AM by Stand and Fight
It is not really so much a new term as the continuation of a term. George Walker Bush remains the 43rd President of the United States, and not the 44th as John Forbes Kerry should have been. As long as he is in office any high crimes and misdemeanors still apply. After all, think about it -- Richard Milhouse Nixon was impeached for for actions during both his first and second terms as President of the United States. William Jefferson Clinton was also impeached for actions during his first and second terms.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:40 AM
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2. Nixon was never impeached
he instead opted to resign in disgrace because he surely would have been impeached otherwise.

Other than that you got it right.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 05:11 AM
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8. He can even face a civil lawsuit.
That's something the conservatives pushed through in the 90s in order to get at Clinton. Who knew they would be aiding and abetting bin Laden by doing it?
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:41 AM
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3. no
they are no longer the majority party
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givemebackmycountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 01:42 AM
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4. God
I think I just got aroused just thinking about something like this actually happening.

24/7 CNN and the rest jumping on him like he was a roach because access or not...
theres rating in this story.
Ratings = Cash.

I just wish something would break that ties him to something SEXUAL.
Anything.

Whatever happened to his butt-boy friend down in Chattanooga?

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mordarlar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 02:42 AM
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16. ROTFLMAO!!! to your whole post.
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pbartch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 03:45 PM
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21. I wish he would get involved in drugs.....heavy duty cocaine or something.
fantasy: DRUG ORGY at someone's house......Georgie and Jeb attend....they both get high and the media gets wind of it. PHOTOGRAPHS, VIDEOS AND RECORDINGS of the orgy get blasted all over the world.
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:00 AM
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5. Bush couldn't get impeached if they found a dead gay prostitue in his bed.

The Republicans would somehow blame it on Clinton, and then do nothing.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 02:14 AM
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6. Correct, Republicans and Bush have to cover each other.
Hey, I'm resigned to a complete disintegration of this country. People whose only values are making war for profit and protecting Big Oil's interests with no clue or vision for a better America.....well, let's just say I'm pessimistic that this country will be worth a whole hellofalot after these people are finished with their modern day rape and pillage.
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 02:24 AM
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15. Yep; the eerie thing is their supporters...

I'm sure nobody's going to be more suprised than the rank-and-file GOP faithful when the whole thing goes in the toilet...oh, wait; they can always blame their failures on Clinton.

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renaissanceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 04:39 AM
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7. Doubtful he would.
Unless we make some SERIOUS gains in 2006, we don't stand a chance impeaching him. BUT...that's not to say that another country couldn't charge him with war crimes in international court.

http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues.16200506
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 06:28 AM
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10. War crimes?
Yes... it makes me chuckle every time I remember how many gyrations Bush's minions have to engage in every time he even wants to travel outside the U.S.

I'm sure you've heard about our government's threats to cut off aid to any/all countries that don't repudiate the international criminal court and its powers. They have to make all sorts of threats, create mountains of red tape, etc., just to make it safe for little Georgie to set foot out of the U.S.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 03:34 PM
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20. War criminals can be tried en abstencia. First, an indictment is need
and then they are subject to arrest. If they evade arrest or fail to surrender to the court, they can be tried anyway.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 06:14 AM
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9. Yes, of course he can.
Whether he will face impeachment, no one knows. Since the number one priority of our senators, congressmen, and other elected officials, is keeping power, however, it will probably not happen. Each of them isn't as interested in taking someone else down, unless he is a direct threat to them.

People keep asking, will the democratic party split? No way--it's been made leaner and meaner by its recent losses. It's the republican party that is far more likely to split. If it does, then those republicans who are already not too thrilled about Bush will be a force that he and his minions will have to reckon with.
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 06:41 AM
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11. Possible? yes........probable? no
Edited on Tue Jan-11-05 06:41 AM by seriousstan
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tngledwebb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 06:48 AM
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12. Can and should be impeached- yes, of course.
Will he be?

Well, not right away, but one day, and in our lifetime, justice will be served.

Not just for Shrub, but more importantly, for all his evil puppet-masters.
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:08 AM
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13. If he is, we get Dick for pres. Now that would be an improvement.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:14 AM
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14. Impeach them both and you get President Hastert
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 08:19 AM
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17. But that's no reason not to try to impeach him.
Those who wished Clinton impeached were met with "why bother... that would just install Gore". Yet, notice the House managers went ahead anyway.

Of course we know there is the repuke lock on congress to be reckoned with, BUT... there are signs of a split or two in their majority... there may be some of them who will get fed up and start siding more with the democrats.

Impeachment is a longshot, but remember, Nixon was not impeached, yet he went down. Note also that before Nixon was taken down, they took his VP down. Heaven knows Cheney is vulnerable to all sorts of charges. Why not go for Cheney first?

Of course, Nixon was able to install his VP pick, Ford, b/f he himself resigned. ONCE FORD WAS IN, HE WAS TERRIBLY WEAKENED BY ALL THE NIXON SCANDALS. ONCE IT CAME TIME FOR AN ELECTION, PEOPLE COULDN'T RUN FROM FORD (AND TOWARDS CARTER) FAST ENOUGH.

Just b/c two more repukes are in the line of succession is no reason not to try to hold Bush accountable for any of his numerous acts of betrayal (dare I call it treason?), malfeasance, high crimes, misdemeanors, etc. Any "president" who comes into power b/c his predecessor was taken out by resignation or impeachment, is a weak, lame, duck, easily defeated in the next election. Look at the backlash that occurred after Clinton's time was up: it was that backlash that unfortunately rushed a lot of people into the extremely foolish and horribly fatal act of voting for Bush in 2000, and of supporting him in his fight to be appointed by the Supreme Court. "Hard cases make bad law"... they also make bad voting choices.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 08:24 AM
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18. How is a dishonorable dick an improvement?
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 03:28 PM
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19. He can be impeached for crimes while in the Natl. Guard!
But first, try to elect a Democratic House and Senate!!
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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 05:48 PM
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23. Yes But Frist And Hastert Will Block It
Theoretically, it is possible if there's enough grassroots support but that would mean engaging half of the adults in the county in protests big enough to shut down most if not all of our metropolitan areas. I will continue to fight for that but we'll need a Democratic majority in at least one house before it can happen.

It's no coincidence that Nixon was brought down in a similar way and with similar timing!

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jsascj Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 06:52 PM
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24. So we will have to wait until 2006?
Oh wait, I forgot...they'll steal that one too.
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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 05:44 PM
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25. Unless We Act Now
Edited on Fri Jan-14-05 05:44 PM by corbett
That's why the DOJ request is an important first step:

http://www.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=552

I've asked MoveOn.org to create a new online petition to collect signatures to be passed along to every member of Congress to support the investigation.

It's a start.
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Salomonity Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 04:37 PM
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22. not politically
he can be impeached for anything congress is willing to impeach him for--that is, hardly anything.
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