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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 01:22 PM
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Parallels between 2004-5 and 1933. The truth hurts
I guess some people here don't believe in the similarities between this regime and that one on Germany during the 30's.

Tell this man he is wrong. 2 links, also is posted in DU's front page:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/06/nyregion/06profile.ht...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

It is clearly related to the times "post-selection" we are living and the willing denial of some that don't want to see what's going on.

Sorry if already posted. Is just too important.
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haele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 01:30 PM
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1. Hey, it never starts with the death camps -
It starts with the demonization of a minority opposition. It starts when the status quo takes on the qualities of a diety. It starts with the denial of responsibility and guilt. It starts with the removal of rights because of "expediancy".

It ends with martial law and the death camps.

Denial ain't just a river in Egypt, it's a way to hold on to a self-justification to avoid taking responsiblity.

Denial is putting off "Hard Work" and making it harder when one absolutely has to do something.
It's so much easier to just admit the problem and to find an equitable solution that sacrafices little before it becomes a big problem, is'nt it?

Haele
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 01:45 PM
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2. It is the truth of this that is so scary. These times will be looked back
Edited on Sat Jan-08-05 01:46 PM by BrklynLiberal
upon some time in the future. I wonder if it will be with regret or with relief. Did we stop the Fascism....or let it take over the country? I am not optimistic. I am not giving up the battle....but I am not optimistic about the outcome..

"First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist so I did not speak out.
Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists, but I was neither, so I did not speak out.
Then they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew so I did not speak out.
And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me."
Martin Niemoller

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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 01:52 PM
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3. kick
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oneold1-4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 03:22 PM
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4. In The Beginning---
There were many plans before Nov. 2000. All they needed was a Democrat in the WH whose brains were caught in a zipper to align one huge radical religious faction along with high powered political money to take a nation without bloodshed.
It will be a long time before the democrats can buy anything again with the regime force in place today. They must self destruct and any means to cause this will be heroic beyond anything in the past.
Since they will soon control what every American can or cannot buy, it may be necessary to start our own program of willing "do not buy".
American consumerism keeps the huge multi-national and domestic corporations (W/world stock market) in the business of war and power.
A simple example: I don't "need" strawberries in December! Make it a motto and we could possibly have the country back someday.
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 04:07 PM
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5. This is happening here in many ways
If you want to understand what and how it happens, read "The Wave". Every library should have it and it is written for "young adults". I'm not sure what reading ability. What you see and begin to understand is why groups form in the first place. How a "leader" can get a group to do just about anything.

It also explains why there may not have been any co-ordination in election fraud.

zalinda
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steelyboo Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 04:20 PM
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6. We need to tell people this where ever you go, update them with
correllations from current news (tie whats happening that day to the Nazi's, but don't stretch if nothing is there) whenever you see them.
I have been talking about the nazi correllation for a bit, and people seem to understand how grave a correllation that is. Thanks to popular culture, and dedicated people who in the 1940's said they would not let the story of the Nazi's fade and were true to that pledge, most people are quite aware of the Nazi's.

I as a historian by degree would find it most ironic that, after preaching that for years "if people would only read their history, we wouldn't be in this mess", we might be saved by the History Channel. :p
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