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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 05:05 AM
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'I want you to vote for me,' dying wife said
Edited on Sat Jan-08-05 05:06 AM by NVMojo
Seattle PI

Charlette Holmgren realized a few weeks before the November election that she might not be able to cast her vote. She had recently been told that her breast cancer had spread to her liver and was terminal.

So Holmgren asked her husband of 40 years to vote for her in the event that she was unable. "She said, you know I may not be able to vote when the time comes to vote, but I want you to vote for me," Bob Holmgren said. "Her vote was important to her."

They went over all the issues on the ballot, and she told him how to vote for her on each one. She did not like Christine Gregoire, he said -- she didn't like the way she shuffled blame onto underlings during her time as attorney general. "She definitely did not want that lady to become the governor of the state," he said.

She wanted to vote to give more money to schools and to re-elect President Bush, among other things.

more...

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/206946_vote07.html

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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 05:07 AM
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1. No post on this board has ever made me nauseous...
until now.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 05:16 AM
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2. oh, you just reminded me, I meant to post this with the article ...
:puke:
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iwillalwayswonderwhy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 05:33 AM
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3. Oh sob, sob, sob
I know dead people can't vote. But my reason was pure.

Right.

Disgusting.
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 05:55 AM
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4. My great-grandfather hated rethugs...
Edited on Sat Jan-08-05 05:57 AM by slor
and served in an all-black unit in WWI (white officers, of course). He passed away in 1998, but he would have wanted to vote for Kerry right here in Ohio. Gee, since they did not receive the proper accolades, following that war, can we just give him one more vote, in honor of his unrecognized service to his country?
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 05:57 AM
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5. How much do you want to bet...
..the Repubs have found a way to justify this?
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 06:05 AM
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6. that's truly sickening, I'll bet you are right ...or they will propose a
new election law to allow spouses to vote on behalf of their dead spouses if it is within a certain time frame of an election cuz married spouses know the heart of each other, right???

Bleeeeeehhhh!!!

:cry: :puke:
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 06:09 AM
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7. Only if the dead person...
would have wanted to vote Republican.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 07:21 AM
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14. Everything they do has a pure reason. That's what makes them dangerous.
Even a Middle Eastern presence is justified on biblical grounds. If they destroy all of humanity, it would be God's will as foretold in the bible.

There are other things too:

Rush Limbaugh isn't a drug addict. He's a man who was suffering with an enormous back pain and got hooked on prescription drugs. Shame on those doctors and pharmaceuticals. (So they reward them with better tax-write offs)

Oliver North wasn't a traitor, loose cannon. He was a patriot of this country who was just following orders.

Gordon Liddy wasn't a burglar. He was another patriot of this country.

It goes on an on. White men are never judged by the same standards they judge others.

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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 02:14 PM
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33. Funny that way isn't it?
Lucky them for being on the right side of the moral bridge all the time, eh?
AHEM.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:24 PM
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32. Read the article.
It's one of the examples of malfeasance (or whatever you want to call it) that they're citing to overturn the election.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 02:16 PM
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34. I did read it...
Yeah, I gathered that much, but it is common for many from the other side to justify wrongdoing on the part of their supporters with carefully worded spin, but attack us and throw us to the wolves over every little thing.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 06:33 AM
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8. The logical extension is they steal the election for a dead guy.
Now, that's covering all the bases.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 06:34 AM
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9. What scum
Repukes think they are above the law. People like this must be crushed. Drive them into the ground, the subhuman rats. They are the blight on society.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 06:51 AM
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10. Rossi complains that dead people voted in the election
and wants a new one. Well, now we know who dead people voted for.
:eyes:
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 06:58 AM
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11. ....and win one for the "Nipple".
::::duck:::::
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 09:10 AM
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18. I live in WA state. Each day brings something new to hate rossi for.
What.A.Pig. "We have to have a new election because dead people voted for me."

The WA state repub are priming themselves for four years of outrageous indignation if they can't steal the election.

The question is how can we ASSURE, BEYOND A DOUBT that elections are fair and the final vote tallies ACCURATELY reflect the will of the people?

Here is the answer:

Vote-by-Mail: The Real Winner Is Democracy


By Bill Bradbury
Saturday, January 1, 2005


While many states were embroiled in fights over touch-screen voting machines and provisional ballots and struggling to find enough people to staff polling places, Oregon once again quietly conducted a presidential election with record turnout and little strife.

Oregon's vote-by-mail system has proved reliable and popular. Critics said that vote-by-mail is prone to fraud. But signature verification of every voter before a ballot is counted is an effective safeguard against fraud.

Curtis Gans of the Committee for the Study of the American Electorate contended that vote-by-mail would suppress voter participation. But record numbers of Oregonians registered to vote, and almost 87 percent of them cast ballots.

<more>

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A40032-20...
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 07:03 AM
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12. Can (will) he get jail time?
Charlette Holmgren died Sept. 29 at the age of 57. When her absentee ballot arrived shortly after her death, Bob Holmgren did what he knew was legally wrong -- but felt like the right thing to do for his wife: He filled out and signed her ballot as she instructed, and mailed it in.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 10:48 AM
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23. this would be called cheating under normal circumstances but in Bushworld
this is true love for him.
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dobegrrrl Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 07:04 AM
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13. The last time my Mom left the house she voted
before she passed away (11-14). Even though she was terribly weak and very sick (lung cancer), she was determined to vote against the idiot. She hated him too. She told my sister that she believed that she would make it if Kerry was elected. She know that tragic effects that a 2nd bush term would have.

:cry:
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madison2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 07:32 AM
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15. My dad died in 1992 but I'm sure he would have hated the idiot
He identified Richard Nixon as a "crook" long before everyone else did, and for that he should have been able to vote against the little moron in the 2004 election.
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 07:46 AM
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16. How many electoral votes does Hell have?
Because ** would win them all in a landslide...

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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:42 AM
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17. It seems pugs have their own set of morals
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kitkat65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 09:16 AM
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19. I see dead people..... voting
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 09:32 AM
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20. not to be crass -- but why didn't she vote absentee? n/t
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read the law first Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 10:34 AM
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21. In most states, an absentee voter must still live until election
In most states, an absentee voter must still live until the close of the polls on election day. I haven't looked at Washington yet, but that's the way it is in most states.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 10:50 AM
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24. She did.
Well he did for her. That's exactly what happened. She requested the absentee ballot before her death. It arrived too late so her husband filled it in and sent it.
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 10:36 AM
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22. Absentee ballot?
that still would of worked
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 10:52 AM
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25. According to the full article it was an absentee ballot...
that he filled in and sent on her behalf. She requested the ballot before her death but it arrived to late so he completed it for her.
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 10:54 AM
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28. I'm not heartless
Give it to him.

It is however illegal, perhaps he should had something in his mom's handwriting over it.

I didnt' read the article. I know tst tst.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 10:56 AM
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29. I'm heartless.
I don't care if it was an absentee ballot. It arrived too late and she did not fill it out. We have to take his word for it with respect to voter intent? I think not. He needs to be prosecuted according to the law.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 10:53 AM
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26. Bob Holmgren should go to prison
he committed election fraud. Do not pass go, do not collect $200, go directly to jail.

He's a fraud and belongs in prison.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 10:53 AM
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27. Does it make me a terrible person if I admit...
the story is not evoking a single iota of sympathy from me? We all have our family tragedies, but we don't all exploit them. He chose poorly.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 11:04 AM
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30. It doesn't make you a terrible person at all
Look at how many obituaries we saw with the "He/She wanted nothing more than to vote for John Kerry in this up coming election, so we ask that you cast your vote for Kerry in his/her memory."? Lots of them. He had options and he chose the one that was illegal rather than the one that would truly honor his wife, as so many others did.

He knew he was breaking the law. He said he knew that when he signed it and mailed it. His act was deliberate and should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 11:46 AM
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31. So this is the dead person Rossi whined about voting???
And she cast a posthumous vote for him???

BWAWAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! What a greasy little whining loser he is getting on TV and complaining about dead folks voting.

Should he get a new election based on the fact that his supporters are fraudulent, conscienceless cheating pigs?

This story makes me sick to my stomach.
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