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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 02:47 AM
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A good Newsweek article about Electoral Challenge
January 7th, 2005 11:49 pm
In Defeat, a Victory?

The Dems' latest challenge of the 2004 election result may have seemed futile. But those involved see it as a win for morality

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/index.php?id=888

It's up on Michael Moore's site. For not saying anything about it on Leno (reportedly, I didn't watch), he sure is all over this on his site.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 02:56 AM
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1. I caught most of it. Instead, he showed a clip of a Porter Goss
interview where Goss says he couldn't get a job at the CIA because he doesn't have the skills. Oops.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 03:09 AM
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2. In the long view
This will be seen as a major, positive event, despite some of the futility claims. We need a FEDERAL standard for federal elections, and get that "state's rights" shit out of there. If states want to play games with their voting methodologies, let them, but when we vote for FEDERAL officeholders, we need a FEDERAL standard. If states don't go along, cut their federal funding till they scream for mercy. Then, of course, the challenge is deciding what the Federal standard will be. Being able to verify the vote, having a paper trail, having accurate recount capability, having proper ballot security, sufficient access for ALL voters so that some districts aren't carrying ten times the voter load as others, etc., etc....

And the fact that this hasn't happened since 1877 is significant, probably more so to the senators and reps than to the country at large, at least right now. But those congressional leaders have to be thinking--too late now!--of their place in history, or their missed opportunity, as a result of this rather unique political event. College students a hundred years from now will probably have a question on their college history quizzes that is answered with: c) "Barbara Boxer and Stephanie Tubbs-Jones." Profiles in courage!

And politicians, like any public figure with ego and power at their fingertips, are AWARE of their place in history....except weecowboy, of course, who majored in history, but doesn't worry about it, because he'll be dead (at least that's what he told Bob Woodward!).

I'm hoping for a sea change in this country. The latest poor AP Poll showing, without any post-election honeymoon to speak of, tells me that reality and awareness are is finally starting to shine through to the American knuckleheads who voted the wrong way.
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Timebound Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 04:08 AM
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3. If I were a praying woman...
...I'd shot 'AMEN' MADem! I hope one day to help my child study for an exam and have to review this piece of history with them. :)
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 04:27 AM
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4. I'm beginning to like the way the media is softselling this.
One step at a time...

And I love this snip--

"While the 43-member caucus took no official position on the challenge, 21 of the 31 House votes cast in its favor came from CBC members."

I hadn't known that.

Just under half the members (more than enough). No official position.

It's more of the subtle touches I'm enjoying as I slowly come too read/hear the Jan6 record.

A great day.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 04:44 AM
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5. We need to have state races
separate from federal ones.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 05:32 AM
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6. And holidays for them, too. n/t
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