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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 08:38 PM
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We have to fight the discouragement and get the numbers back up
I've noticed that all the events connected to the Democratic Party and the opposition have been smaller since Novemeber 2nd. People put their all out for Kerry and he turned his back on them. A great many people are saying, "why bother?"

People, the Nazi's are taking over. They are counting on us getting discouraged. In other countries bad guys have been shouted out of power. It doesn't take an election. It takes us. Make no mistake about it. We won. Kerry won big. We have known for a long time that the DNC and most Democratic leaders were all talk and no results. They are not going to save us. We have to save us. Yesterday, we saw 32 heroes along with others who couldn't vote on the motion, such as Reverend Jesse Jackson. We need to rebuild and we need to make a commitment to oust anyone who voted "nay" yesterday. If the progressives unite, we can throw out the DNC leadership along with the thieves they cater to.
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 08:43 PM
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1. I'm not discouraged, I'm pumped!
I am sad when people here say they are leaving. We won't ever get the thugs out of office if we are divided. If they leave, Rove has done his job.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 09:12 PM
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7. I'm pumped too! Getting ready to put together those letters to the editor
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Help save our country one town, county, and state at a time!
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HEAVYHEART Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 08:48 PM
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2. Hell no. Not me. I am NOT discouraged.
I've been registered as Independent for 21 years although I've always voted for Democrats. I've decided that now is the time that I change my party affiliation to Democrat. I can't wait.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 08:52 PM
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3. I am discouraged. But I feel better than yesterday. And we will
all be back in spirit soon.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 09:01 PM
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4. I'm more encouraged!
we obviously have a lot of strength. Look at what we did! We even brought the switchboards to a halt! We created HISTORY!

Discouraged? ABOUT WHAT???
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 09:14 PM
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8. That's right, we got our issue onto the floor of both houses of
congress!!! OMG, how big is that! It's a huge first step. We are in the congressional record! Politics is all about baby steps - it's designed to move slowly. We took a big step yesterday.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 09:05 PM
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5. I was concerned, after Kerry bowed out and the 527s went dark
that all the new people would just bail. Not sure they haven't.

But, let's be real about where we are. A little tired, maybe needing a little R&R. So we can come back and do the job.

Anyone feeling a little worn out? (Show of hands --) Fine. Rest up and we'll still be here. There's a lot to do and we need every single one of you.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 09:07 PM
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6. Bingo...Jesse Jackson is on AAR now, if you want encouragement!
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Syncronaut Seven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 09:14 PM
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9. I'm tired right now
3 more days of sleep & a good "medication" session & I should be back to normal.

Your right about the DNC, Their no friend of the people, that's for sure.

I've been a registered Democrat for 25 years now, IMHO If the repugs can purge the moderates, we can purge the corporate whores. Welcome to facism, all other issues can wait.

The focus should be clear now. Not one damn dime day? How about not one damn dime year.
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 09:22 PM
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10. Maybe people need a break they have been going for the entire
election season and are still going!
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Doohickie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 09:26 PM
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11. This site has stirred my political blood
I will be back for more campaigns and I will increase my activity in them. Thank you, DU, for the inspiration.

But I do need a rest. See y'all in a while.
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 09:27 PM
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12. Take care my friend
Rest up. Come back and visit every once in awhile.

I will always BELIEVE :hug:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 09:43 PM
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13. Exactly! No wonder we're a little grumpy!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 09:53 PM
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14. "Just show up, baby (then we win)" -- borrowed from Al Davis
I haven't been to a major demonstration in many a years but I went to DC Thursday. It was one of the very best days in my life!!! Oh sure, I've had more fun, more success, more friends with me, etc. But I felt entirely satisfied.

The crowd at Lafayette and Capitol Hill was smaller than we'd like but, in terms of key leaders, it was huge -- many many in the ***VOTING RIGHTS***movement leaders were there speaking. It was an honor to be with them.

Here's the deal: JUST SHOW UP and bring a friend.
The numbers will change if we all just take this personal responsibility.

You comments are very correct. If there were 20-30k people downtown (DC) yesterday, I think it would have blown people's minds on the Hill and we'd have had more votes.

We need a whopper soon, like the Million Man March or some of the anti-Iraq war protests. We do that a few times, and they'll take a big dump in fear of a mass movement.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:45 PM
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17. I really wish I could have been there
Edited on Fri Jan-07-05 10:47 PM by Blue_In_AK
I participated in several marches and demonstrations against the Vietnam War in San Francisco back in the old days, including one with about 300,000 people in 1970, I think it was. Everybody was always so pumped up and the energy fantastic. It's great to see so many people getting that same kind of energy again. We accomplished a lot back then (although it apparently didn't completely stick), and we can do it again. I guess what it shows is that democracy requires eternal vigilance or it just slips away.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 02:46 AM
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19. You've been around! Me too! I'm putting up a second thread of pics
about 7:15 PM EST tomorrow in this forum. I went to school in CA and went to a few of those events myself. For some reason, this one was extremely moving (and I'm not moved easily). I was just overwhelmed by the act of public advocacy for democracy! I think 1/6/05 in DC was the beginning of something huge. Thanks for the message.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:12 PM
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15. Do you know HOW LONG the Repukes worked to gain power?
40 years. That's right! 40 f'ing years. They slipped it by us by organizing, organizing, organizing and that STILL wasn't enough to win UNLESS THEY CHEAT!

Remember: WE ARE THE MAJORITY.

NEVER FORGET. NEVER STOP.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:48 PM
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18. Woo-hoo, Carolab
I like that.:toast:
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 03:13 AM
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20. Right ON! So great to hear. Remember Frank Zappa against that right-wing
Edited on Sat Jan-08-05 03:16 AM by FreepFryer
group of Fundie preachers?

Here's a blast from the past - Zappa on Crossfire, with Bob Novak, in like '83 or something.

"the greatest threat to America is not rock music, it's the coming fascist theocracy"... "morality is about behavior not theology." His advice to the young: "Register to vote. Run for office."
-- Frank Zappa

Special bonus video: http://www.ifilm.com/viralvideo?ifilmid=2658805

I'm pretty sure he must have predicted election fraud as well - he was quite brilliant.

We can do it. We will do it. Liberal Democracy means one person, one vote.

WE BELIEVE!!! :)
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joevoter Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 05:20 AM
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21. Thanks for the post Frank said it right - Holds as true today
as it did then
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 10:35 PM
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16. Do we want to take back our country??? Oh yes...YES
I'll never concede. I'll never stop fighting. Discouragement be damned-- I'm hanging in there, no matter what.
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