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George_S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:28 PM
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DU Researchers: a call to action (if you want)
We know the votes look fishy in 8 states that don't have a paper trail. All the states that did have a paper trail are in line with the usually reliable exit polls.

One thing I haven't seen in detail is HOW these important states came to have non-paper trail machines, and why in states that would be so close?

WI Wisconsin
PA Pennsylvania
OH Ohio
FL Florida
MN Minnesota
NH New Hampshire
NC North Carolina
CO Colorado

Let's assume Rove had his October surprise planned since 2000 when Bush almost lost Florida. Rove isn't the type that likes close calls like that.

Some questions:

1) There are lists of which machines are in which state, but how did that come about? For example, Florida is divided by machine type. Why? Who decided that?

2) Who pushed it through the various state legislators and who financed that? What are the connections between the states?

3) Who did any PR work though ads or public perception? Did the same team push it through all the states?

4) Who pushed the federal law through and left out a paper trail requirement? Who backs that person? Is there a connection to the other states as well?

5) Who wanted paper trails but was beaten down?

6) What lawyers represented the companies and/or any other firms and how are they connected to the R party?

Suggestion, start here and work down to each state:

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0225-05.htm

And then work back up and back and forth between the states.

Bet they are all connected in more ways than we know. We are looking for news releases, articles, legislative votes, debates, laws, lobbyists, tech news and anything else that will connect the dots.

If you want to play, let's work down here because it will move slower:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:29 PM
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1. Let me know when you get some data compiled
Please put it together in an html page or something that I can put on my site so that non-DUers can access it too? :)

Thanks!

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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:31 PM
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2. Might want to check with Bev and GBnC to see what work on this has already
been done. Target the info that is still missing.
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George_S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:37 PM
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3. A lot of times when hunting the hits are accidental....
... trying to limit it can prevent that. But you're right in the sense that we can find more search terms and connections at their sites to get us started.

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meisje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:51 PM
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4. Columbus Ohio(Franklin County) Electronic machines since 1992
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:25 AM
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5. Reading that, I'm wondering if Bush
stacked the deck in 2000 and Gore got more than was anticipated so they had to use the setup in Florida.
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BayStateBoy Donating Member (562 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 11:39 PM
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6. I Don't Know How They Did It, But Florida is the Fraud State
Kerry should have won it despite the hurricane votes for Bush and the hispanics.

Brother Jeb was busy for four years making sure it was locked down.

Tampering also probably occurred in OH, but that was a stretch for Kerry to win. In FL, Chimp had his own in house thief.
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