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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 10:03 PM
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No matter what the Democrats do the Republicans will blame them
For decades I've watched the Democrats roll over again and again in an effort to "play nice" with Republicans.

It never works. Republicans backstab us no matter what.

Clinton was fiscally conservative and they called him a spendthrift.
Clinton was cautious in foreign policy and they called him extreme.
Clinton was morally above reproach and they called him (wait, well two out of three ain't bad....)

My point is that no matter what Democrats do, the Republicans will lie about it and take advantage of us and cheat and lie some more.

I hope that Senator Boxer and some other senators stand up for what is right tomorrow. It can't possibly make things any worse for Democrats, and it might actually help.

Sometimes its time to turn the boat toward the enemy and charge.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 10:05 PM
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1. Read this, dammit! I hardly ever post here. Gimme some respect!
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 10:39 PM
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7. FAX this to your Senators dammit! I am serious EOM
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:49 PM
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9. My senators are both Republican. No good there.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 10:08 PM
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2. and no matter how moderate we become they will still call us commies
I get your drift yardwork and I agree
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 10:09 PM
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3. I hear ya, Yard Work n/t
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 10:12 PM
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4. Right on. The GOP can only win when Dems fold. We ARE the people. (n/t)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 10:12 PM
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5. Of course they'll blame us. That's their job. Ours is to do ours. n/t
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mohinoaklawnillinois Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 10:19 PM
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6. Or call us the "loony left" as
John Feehery, a spokesman for Speaker J. Dennis Hastert, said of the Democrats.

Yeah, this outrageous comment was posted on the NYT website tonight.

Here's the link: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/06/politics/06elect.html
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 10:40 PM
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8. kick
:kick: AMEN, yardwork!
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:49 PM
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10. Thank you!
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:52 PM
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11. I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE!
Anyone else remember that line and who said it.
It belongs to us now.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:54 PM
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12. I remember it. Thank you!
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 12:06 AM
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13. That's right.
We have very little to lose. Regardless of what we do, the Rethugs are not going to abandon their agenda. If we play nice and polite and just lie down they won't respect us or cut us some slack (Hmmm. It sounds like I'm describing an abusive relationship), they'll just trample us. Then they'll raise a stink and file a challenge the first time one of their candidates loses an important election.

If all of the Democratic Senators stood up, they couldn't be dismissed as a few loonies.

More importantly, we need to get over worrying about what right-wing scumbags think of us.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 12:12 AM
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14. Thank you. Our side needs to stand up and be courageous.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 12:25 AM
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15. They will only respect us if we stand tough
That's the way bullies are, doncha know?
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 09:22 AM
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22. Exactly, bullies do not go away if you go along with them.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 12:46 AM
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16. Good post--those are also my sentiments exactly! n/t
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 12:49 AM
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17. Excellent post damnit -- maybe you should post here more often n/t
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 09:05 AM
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18. Thank you, Senator Boxer!
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 09:13 AM
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19. Very true
There is no way it can make anything worse - except for the neocons. :evilgrin:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 09:14 AM
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20. F* the republicans and i know and love many
they are my people. they are me. i am fighting this for them. i have done good by them all my life. they should trust me on this. but in their uniformed and afraid,.........and conditioned

what is the saying i was going to remember

they know not what they do
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 09:17 AM
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21. nothing a few jail sentences won`t cure.
If this pans out , It will knock the repigs back into the stoneage.
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FreeCajun Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 09:52 AM
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23. I was a moderate Repub for years
And then the Clenis issue started in clouding the actual FACTS of what Clinton was really doing for our country: attacking the damn terrorists they're crying about now, and they started whining about the budget and we ended up with a surplus and they complained about morals and there were fewer abortions under Clinton than under any prez since RvW. THEN Jr. shows up, shits on McCain -- the last repub I had any respect for, and the 'pugs LICKED IT UP. Heads are still spinning from the speed of my exit. If they couldn't be trusted to see the good the man was doing what was the point of my being there? Now I'm a progressive Dem, with a moderate personal lifestyle. I'm MUCH happier about my life but the state of the country worries me.

They piss on us no matter WHAT happens, and their control of media interests makes thing a thousand times worse. I haven't seen Jr. do much good and I don't expect to see much good coming out of him, especially since I knew about PNAC in '00 and was scared shitless they would win. I don't think the comparisons to Hitler are too far off. I believe more than a few are certifiable. If they can't take a step back and look at things as they are and not as Limbaugh and O'Reilly say they are, then they're more like religious fanatics then political idealists, which is what Nazi Germany was.

I think if some good people had stood up in Germany in '30 or '33 or so, there might have been less tragedy; Awareness campaigns can only go so far against a mass media that screams about one presidents genitals without a peep about another's war dead. I dearly hope we haven't stood up too late.
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