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adolfo Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:50 AM
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Florida Precinct Reports: Lee County
Edited on Sun Dec-12-04 02:03 AM by adolfo
I've been spending my day gathering precinct reports (lots a fun) from different counties. One report that stood out was Lee County:

http://www.recountflorida.com/ivrs_precincts.php?county=Lee

Bush won almost every precinct. Does anyone know if these numbers are possible to accomplish? It looks very fishy to me but I don't have older data to compare it to.

Can someone recommend a good site with detailed precinct info? So far, I'm about 30% done with Florida.

Another question; what is up with all these church locations? Is that normal?

www.recountflorida.com

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senegal1 Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 01:52 AM
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1. Can someone help this guy?
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 04:54 AM
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2. Something is fishy in this whole state
Yes it does seem odd that Bush would carry every precinct in any county. Lee county also lost almost 750 votes between election night and the certified vote. Supposedly they count a batch of votes twice?


Here's a page with links to all the BOE websites in FL:

http://election.dos.state.fl.us/county/index.shtml

You have to dig through each counties site to find the data you are looking for. Good luck.

In regards to the churches, yes that is where most polling places are in FL for a number of years at this point. We use to use the public schools but I think it disrupted the schools too much, so they switched to private sites like churches and community centers.

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Paligal Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 05:11 AM
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3. Check the 2000 election results in Lee County
They should be fairly similar in a precinct breakdown. I mean, if there were Democratic precincts, I doubt every one of them would become Republican four years later. People have only become more entrenched in their parties (look at us!)
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mulethree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 05:34 AM
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4. http://www.leeelections.com/demograf.htm
Edited on Sun Dec-12-04 05:37 AM by mulethree
seems like every county has a board of elections and is the only place to find precinct-level info. States deal with counties and national deals with states.

So if you do a search on 'lee county florida election results' or 'lee county florida board of elections' then you can find it within a page or two.

in '92
they turned out 88% and
voted about 44:32:23 for GHW Bush : Clinton : Perot respectively.

in '96
they turned out 75% and
voted about 40:39:11 for Dole : Clinton : Perot respectively.

in 2000*
they turned out 75% and
voted about 57:40 for Bush : Gore respectively.

in 2004**
they turned out 79% and
voted about 60:39 for Bush : Kerry respectively.

2004 Registration 90:145:59 Dem:Rep:Ind (thousands)
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 05:47 AM
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5. churches are normal. n/t
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 11:02 AM
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6. Without getting too involved with the data, I do have some
theories I'm kicking around. They're based on the assumption that the allegations that Tom Feeney or someone like him, did manage to get software written to flip votes from Kerry to Bush and personal observations on election day.

The ridiculous numbers we're seeing in precincts where Bush didn't just win, but got more votes than were possible, may have been the result of two different Republican efforts.

(1) The computerized vote flipping. The vote flipping would have required a program that was installed days, weeks, months ahead of time. In other words, the one factor a computer programmer could not have anticipated before the election, was the number of absentee ballots. This would have had to have been manually manipulated to get the right numbers during and after election day. (Much like we saw happen in Ohio with the lockdown.)

(2) Those pesky absentee ballots. The Republican party got so good at sending them out in past elections, that they outdid themselves and this may end up being their downfall. They were probably so liberal in sending them out that they caused the one problem that would eventually expose the other frauds. The one weakness in voter registrations is the inactive voters. A county is suppose to red flag a voter whose mail gets returned after two years. But I noticed that some of them were still blue flagged up to 4 years. If they're blue flagged, they can vote the regular way -- no provisional. So, if the county did an incompetent or malicious job of keeping inactive voters on their registries, it would leave open a chance for someone to get a second vote. One from the county they were currently living in, and the other from the county which they once lived in. You add to this, an aggressive Republican mailing of absentee ballots and you end up with lots of people getting absentee ballots - WHO MAY NOT HAVE EVEN KNOWN IT WAS COMING FROM THEIR OLD COUNTY! So when they voted, they never realized they were voting in an old precinct. Then, on election day, when another aggressive Republican turn-out-the-vote organization called them to inform them that there was no record that they had yet voted in their current county, well, the poor puzzled voter (who already showed his lack of intelligence by being a Republican in the first place) goes down and votes again!

So, this creates an opportunity to create a smoking gun. It would explain why Bush had way too many votes in any one precinct.

For me, the fun part will be in tracking down the people that perpetuated this fraud; and, also, going another four years calling Bush an illegitimate and now, officially, crooked leader.
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Lisabtrucking Donating Member (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-04 11:09 AM
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7. How do I find my area/ there are only # there. I'm in hillsborough,
Edited on Sun Dec-12-04 11:10 AM by Lisabtrucking
how do I find the area for where I voted?
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