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Cereal Kyller Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 12:43 AM
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Man ignores teen's rape in flowerbed
Source: Sydney Morning Herald

Police are searching for a man who appears to have ignored a teenager's cries for help as she was being raped in a flowerbed near a Parramatta church.

The 15-year-old girl was walking alone through Church Street Mall at Parramatta, in Sydney's west, shortly after 2am (AEST) on Sunday when she was approached by two strangers. Police have described them as being of African appearance.

Detective Superintendent Maria Rustja said the girl had been at a function with friends but had decided to meet up with another group of people. "She was walking back through Church Street Mall on her own, when she was approached by the two men," she told reporters on Tuesday.

"The males then pulled her into a garden bed, adjacent to St John's church, on Church Street Mall, where she was indecently assaulted."

The girl called out for help when a man walked past but he didn't respond, said Det Super Rustja. "While there is no legal obligation to render assistance, certainly there is a moral one," she said.



Read more: http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/man-ignor...



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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 12:45 AM
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1. "Someone being raped next to me? Not my problem."
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Cereal Kyller Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 01:59 AM
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2. Is that an actual quote?
If so, who is the prick??
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Prana69 Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 02:00 AM
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3. As morally abhorrent as this man's refusal to intervene appears, ....
I can understand it. Two weeks ago in Melbourne, a 40 year old woman was stabbed (and subsequently died) when she confronted a group of youths who had "egged" her house. A stupid prank resulted in this mother of three dying. A 14 year old kid has been charged with manslaughter.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/boy-bailed-over-woman...

People are just too scared to intervene in these situations lest they become victims themselves.

I'd like to think that I would go to the aid of someone being assaulted, but there's always going to be that "what if..." factor.

P69

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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 02:24 AM
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5. he could have made a call.
at least.
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:39 AM
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26. he may not have heard her
I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 11:02 AM
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29. Then they are cowards.
If I heard a woman getting raped I would try to stop it even if it put my own safety at risk.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 03:14 PM
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31. holy damn...how does someone stab a woman to death and make bail?
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 02:05 AM
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4. What Would You Do? did a series on things like this, and it may play a role.
Apparently males are reluctant to get involved with a younger female, even if to protect them, because they have a fear of the wrong thing being construed.
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 02:27 AM
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6. he's an accessory to the crime, so he should serve the time and drop plenty of soap bars n/t
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 02:32 AM
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7. How is he an accessory? And why would you advocate his being raped?
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 11:58 AM
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30. He didn't call the police, and I consider bystanders to a crime accessories n/t
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Prana69 Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 02:38 AM
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9. That's just wrong.
Could you please re-consider what you have suggested?

P69
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Tunkamerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 03:17 AM
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13. what a terrible thing to say
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 04:05 AM
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19. Two things
1) He's not an accessory at all. Scumbag maybe but not an accessory.
2) Prison rape is no funnier than any other kind of rape.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 06:37 AM
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23. Promoting rape as a punishment is barbaric
When will people finally be ashamed of themselves for such suggestions?
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joeglow3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 08:24 AM
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27. Especially if he is deaf. Lets all grab our pitchforks and rape him.
Jump to conclusions much?
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 02:36 AM
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8. Why are they looking for him?
What is the purpose?
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Prana69 Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 02:45 AM
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10. Evidence I suspect.
He is a witness to the alleged crime and may be able to provide descriptions of the suspects.

P69
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blank space Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 02:54 AM
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12. This was in Sydney wasn't it ??
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Cereal Kyller Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:33 AM
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25. Yes
The west side.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 03:19 AM
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15. Sounds reasonable, but don't you think they are going about it in a bad way?
Look at the title of the article and the first few lines; to me, it appears as if they are accusing him of something, though further in the article it says he did nothing illegal. This article strikes me as very odd.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 02:54 AM
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11. it never makes sense to talk to cops.
they're just as likely to charge this witness with something as they are to go after the rapists, just so they look like they're doing something.
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Tunkamerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 03:19 AM
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14. what if he was deaf? why don't we all jump to whatever conclusions make us feel
most like we want to feel?
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Kurska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 03:21 AM
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16. Shouldn't the ire be direct at the men who raped her in the first place? n/t
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 05:14 AM
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21. Of course not. They were simply performing their proper societal function.
Need I add? :sarcasm:
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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 03:23 AM
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17. indictive of the void of compassion and empathy exhibited by the rethugs...
each & every day. Magnify this a thousand times.
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CJvR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 03:57 AM
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18. Really no excuse...
...for not calling the police at least.

As for stepping in and stopping it, well the legal system in my home country of Sweden really, REALLY don't approve of that. Don't know what the Aussie law says on the issue.
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oldbanjo Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 04:45 AM
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20. Some of these countrys laws are stupid
and if he got involved, got attacked, and defended himself in any way he could be sued or arrested. England has that type of law.
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diveguy Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 05:22 AM
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22. Thats what i was gonna post
If the guy had intervened, most likely he would be in jail and the rapist would be walking around. Look around at videos from some other countries. These guys can go up to you and slap you in the mouth and there is nothing you can do about it without getting arrested yourself. Cultural understanding and all that.
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 07:31 AM
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24. Allegedly
That is one shitty headline.

He might not have heard her at all because she was not loud enough.
He might have been deaf and not heard her no matter how loud.
He might not have understood her cries for help.
He might have been elderly or infirm and did not want to die at the hands of two obvious animals.

All summed up as man ignores rape.

Bullshit and lame headline.

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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-11 11:01 AM
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28. That is inhuman!
:grr:
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