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hermetic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 10:18 AM
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An item that IS in the US news everyday
is the ever-increasing price of gas now. But as I peruse the Canadian papers I see no mention of same. So I'm wondering, are your gas prices not increasing? If you are kind enough to reply, please say where you live.
:toast:
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 10:20 AM
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1. Yep ... slowing creeping up
Live just norht of Boston and the station I go to charges $2.02 a gallon. That's a 3 cent increase from yesterday.
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Steel City Slim Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 10:22 AM
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2. South Eastern Pa.
Yeah, they're going up here. $2.05 the other day when I last gassed up.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 10:22 AM
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3. I paid 2.19/gal Chicago suburbs.
Edited on Wed Mar-30-05 10:23 AM by Inland
And I think there are two point six gals per hectare to covert to metric.

by comparison, it went below a buck during the Clinton years for week or two. But also, it's really not all that much higher than the fifties and sixties, using inflated dollars.

When it gets really expensive, you'll know it. The Third Infantry Division will be on the move north.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 10:28 AM
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5. The 1950's and 60's is the wrong place to start with inflation...
...most inflation bases now begin with the late 1980's. I'm not sure why that is though I think it might have something to do with real values of goods and services, but that may not be the reason at all!
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 10:25 AM
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4. If gas prices keep going up, does that make the economic...
...indicator of GDP go up also? How does the inflation rate and the real value of goods and services work when all of these economic dislocations of import price increases, U.S. dollar devaluation, out-sourcing of jobs, not counting all of the unemployed and discouraged workers, etc., mislead us in the traditional economic indicators?

I need a Dummies Guide to the New Economics under BushCo. My personal feeling is that we are all being duped! Anyone else feeling that way?
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 10:30 AM
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6. higher here
Here in Houston, the average price is $2.06 a gallon... but there are places where you can get it for a bit less.

Sue
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 10:43 AM
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9. Reg gas in Orlando FL is as high as $2.229 but more typically...
...$2.139 to $2.199. I am very cautious about putting the cheapest gas in my car, there has to be a reason why some family convenience store is advertising gas at $2.089 when everyone else is a nickel to a dime or more higher!
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Mother Jones Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 10:30 AM
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7. Yes, they are increasing in Canada
just as everywhere else. In Ontario, it's up as high as $.90 a litre.

We've ALWAYS paid more for gas than our friends south of the border. What baffles me is, the uproar many americans make. As if the rising price of a finite commodity (with increased demand) is a big surprise!

I guess I just don't get the SUV mentality among the burbites.
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 10:36 AM
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8. Let's make sure I remember my metric system correctly......
a liter is close to a quart, right? So $.90 a liter comes to about $3.60 a gallon, right?
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Mother Jones Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 10:46 AM
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10. i think it depends on whether you are talking imperial or american gallons
???

I'm not an expert in the conversion, but i think an Imperial gallon is just over 4 litres, while an American gallon is just under 3.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 10:46 AM
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11. Here you go....
metric -> imperial
1 cu cm 0.0610 in3
1 cu decimetre 1,000 cm3 0.0353 ft3
1 cu metre 1,000 dm3 1.3080 yd3
1 litre 1 dm3 1.76 pt
1 hectolitre 100 l 21.997 gal


imperial -> metric
1 cu inch 16.387 cm3
1 cu foot 1,728 in3 0.0283 m3
1 fluid ounce 28.413 ml
1 pint 20 fl oz 0.5683 l
1 gallon 8 pt 4.5461 l



USA measure -> metric
1 fluid ounce 1.0408 UK fl oz 29.574 ml
1 pint (16 fl oz) 0.8327 UK pt 0.4731 l
1 gallon 0.8327 UK gal 3.7854 l

http://convert.french-property.co.uk/#volume
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 11:05 AM
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12. How many acre-feet in a meter?
How many fathoms in a euro?

It's so confusing.



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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 12:37 PM
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17. We are the only country that still adheres to the English system
...of weights and measures. As for the answer to your question, maybe this will help:

1 acre = 4840 yd2 = 4046.9 m2

Now get busy and do your conversions
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 08:02 AM
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26. But that's $3.60 Cdn
which is about $2.96 U.S. by the current exchange rate.
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hermetic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 11:11 AM
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13. Be greatful you don't have that mentality
Plus, it's really not baffling at all. People in the US pay less for mostly everything due to prices not reflecting actual costs of production. Instead costs are set by book juggling and out-and-out lying in order to put the most $ in the pockets of the CEO's. But that is a two-legged stool and eventually it has to fall over. We are no longer able to flimflam with the cost of oil, no matter how many people we kill. So while people here are having heart palpitations over the price of gas the rest of the world just takes it in stride because they understand that EVERYTHING comes with a price. I was just curious tho, about how much it was rising up there.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 12:09 PM
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14. seen it a 90 cents a litre here - was in the 70's not long ago
.
.
.

:hi:

noone's getting excited around here tho

we've been waiting . . .

no surprise . .

or outrage

"C'est la vie!!"

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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 12:25 PM
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15. Toronto, area
87.5 c/l CAND this morning
=
71.9395 c/l USD (using currency converter)
X
3.78 (l/USG)
=
$2.7193 USD/gal
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 12:35 PM
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16. Where I live in B.C., it is .90 cents a litre
It tends to keep going between .87 and .90 in the last few weeks.
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 12:40 PM
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18. Ha! Effete wimps!
In Nova Scotia, it's 95.9/litre and likely to keep on climbing... a big fat "Thanks for nothing, morans!" to our arsehole :crazy: Tory govt.
:grr:

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ninty Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 12:53 PM
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19. I think it was
Edited on Wed Mar-30-05 12:56 PM by ninty
at 80 cents last time I filled up in Calgary.

Now I think it's a bit higher:

http://www.calgarygasprices.com/

0.80 CAD = 0.657 USD
X
3.78 = $2.48/gallon US
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 02:04 PM
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20. Conversion

1 US(gal) = 3.785 L

$1 US = $1.213CDN (average of buy/sell)
http://www.tdcommercialbanking.com/tradefinance/rates.jsp

To convert cost/L CDN to cost(US)/gal

multiply $/L CDN by 3.120 will give you $ US /gal

Hope this helps.



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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 06:21 PM
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21. It's 94.6 a litre here in Saskatoon.
What's that $4 a gallon or so.
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 07:52 PM
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22. Concerning currency conversion, btw
It's really meaningful only if you happen to be buying gas in Canada with US dollars. Canadian salaries aren't adjusted to match their comparable value in Yankee greenbacks, so basically a dollar's a dollar up here. We're pretty much paying $3.50 to $3.90 a gallon for self-serve regular as far as how hard it hits the old pocketbook is concerned.

I wouldn't mind all that much if the associated taxes were being used specifically for, say, alternative energy sources, pollution prevention, etc., etc., but they pretty much go in the same pot with everything else...
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 09:09 PM
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23. Yes and No
Prices are based on the North American market. If one area won't pay the price then it will be moved to the best market. A lot of the oil is based on a limited ability for processing it into the final product. Once it is converted the price is based on transportation costs and location.

On the other hand disposable income is based on other things.

The markets are not separate. If one were to remove the taxes then the prices would come together.
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 11:28 PM
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25. True that...
My point was more on the disposable income issue. I'd say that Canadian salaries are roughly on a par with the US (except for a slightly higher minimum wage), so if you happen to live here and earn Canadian dollars, converting Canadian prices into their US equivalent doesn't accurately reflect their impact on the consumer.

I think this makes sense...
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 09:26 PM
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24. Nearly a buck in Courtenay, BC.
Typically a few cents cheaper in Port Alberni. Not that that's really on the way anywhere except Tofino. :)
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