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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:20 PM
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I just realized I cared more about this election than our own
That says one of two things to me.
Either
A: The power dynamic of this world is extremely fucked up
B: I've spent way too much time on DU
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whodiedandmadeUSgod Donating Member (503 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:22 PM
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1. What are the Canadians saying today?
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:24 PM
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2. haven't spoken to many
But considering he had a 14 per cent approval rating in Canada, you can imagine the general feeling.
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Cannabian Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:31 PM
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3. Long before I came upon DU
I believed that choice A was true.

Also, our elections have never had earth shaking ramifications. Call me alarmist, but I think the planet is in for a rough ride during the next four years. Maybe even longer.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:55 PM
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8. yuppers
The power dynamic, fucked up.

Funny how so many people who believe so fervently in the righteousness of that little revolution of theirs ... the one about not being taxed without representation ... just don't hesitate to treat the rest of the world like their own colony.

USAmericans get to do the voting, the rest of us get to eat the shit they vote for.

No shit without representation, sez I. And a few of those voters south of the border might want to remember what tends to happen when people are fed shit without getting to vote on it. And not come all over surprised and sanctimonious when somebody spits shit back.

As I wonder how there can possibly be still so many members of our species who are so obviously too stupid to be safe out, and/or too vicious to be allowed out, in this century of ours ... I try to tell myself that it isn't entirely their fault.

My voice just keeps getting fainter in my head, though. Drowned out by the voices squealing in pure piglike self-interest (stupidly unlightened as it may be) coming from the south.

At some point, people really do just have to be responsible for their own actions. I'm about as willing to accept that individuals' responsibility is diminished as a result of denial of opportunity, denial of information or repeated abuse as the next person, but sometimes even I have to say YOU DID THIS AND YOU CANNOT ESCAPE YOUR RESPONSIBILITY FOR IT.

There were no lessons learned from the Vietnam War. That war wasn't ended because the people of the US took responsibility for the horrific evil thing their government was doing to other people in their name. It was ended because too many of them weren't willing to bear the costs to them of what it was doing. They didn't learn anything about their government or their society, or move up a rung on the ladder of human decency. They just wimped out.

Well, now they'll reap more consequences of their refusal to open their bloody eyes and minds, and behave like moral beings. Unfortunately, so will the rest of us.

Bitter? Who, me?

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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:36 PM
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4. Yeah. Same here.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:40 PM
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5. Thanks so much Canadians for standing by us troublemakers
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yvr girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:17 PM
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6. Me too
I'm more upset by this loss than by campaigns I've helped out on. During our last election, I didn't feel that Canada was at risk. No matter who won, we would have been ok. Harper may not be popular in these parts, but I doubt that he could have mismantled all the things that Canadians hold dear.

Bush is just plain scary. I don't understand how the rest of the world can hate him, and the majority of Americans don't see his faults. They're so insular. I had great hope for Kerry to change that.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 05:32 PM
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7. I think youth and stupidity played a role
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carpetbagger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 08:17 PM
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9. B: You've spent way too much time on DU
You've got to keep your little sector safe from those guys from Alberta. Many of us are counting on you. In about 8 years, I need to make a decision about whether or not to tough it out in the states, so that I can make sure my kids are settled and encultured before they finish growing up.

So care about your election, as well as ours. dammit, if I anxiously watched your returns, you should do so too.

And tell all your friends of voting age that this doctor says the health care in America's private sector sucks. Sure, you get your tests quicker, but then you get to spend the next month on the phone trying to get them paid for by your insurance.
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LiberteToujours Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 03:41 AM
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10. Alberta's not that bad
Trust me, I live here. It's conservative as far as Canada goes, but come on, we're talking about Canada. :D
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carpetbagger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 11:13 PM
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12. Yeah, you're right. I looked at CBC site on upcoming elections
I've figured out that Canada is the United States without republicans. The elections in Alberta, and in fact the last federal elections, sound at worst like a recent democratic primary in a nearby congressional district (heavily democratic, no less) here in Texas. You have center-right democrats, center-left democrats, liberal democrats, one or two Zell Millers, and a couple of ethnic blocks.
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Mother Jones Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-04 09:41 AM
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11. Canadians are devastated....
We SHOULD care about an election that affects our world so much.

If it weren't for Iraq, this chimp is still destroying our environment and oppressing his people in the name of corporate profits.

Iraq makes his victory seem like a mistake.

Activism is at an all-time high, and that's not likely to change. I see this as a passing phase in a revolution. This is the right-wing's last stand. I read today that the majority in the U.S -The white population, will not be the majority for much longer. After they take over, it's bye-bye republicans.
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carpetbagger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-04 12:02 PM
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13. I wish I had your optimism.
Demographic changes don't necessarily help the democrats. The GOP is doing increasingly well with Hispanic voters. It is possible, even probable, that when those voters become the majority or plurality in several states, those states will not shift out of their traditional republican voting pattern.

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Mother Jones Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 08:18 AM
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14. Understand....however,
As I understand it, minorities in general, not just hispanics, were voting to protect their "values", by coming out in droves against gay marriage. Once bush decimates any hope in hell for gays to marry, these folks may go back to sitting out elections.

Once the gay marriage issue is put to rest, I have to believe these will go back to voting dem, simply because it helps them out the most, financially.

There aren't many republicans who are as extreme (re religion) as bushy. What will be so appealing about a repub. ticket in 2008?
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