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white cloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 01:04 PM
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Why Rick Perry's presidential bid is toast
Editor's note: James Carville is a Democratic strategist who serves as a political contributor for CNN, appearing frequently on CNN's "The Situation Room" as well as other programs on all CNN networks. Carville remains active in Democratic politics and is a party fundraiser.

(CNN) -- Rick Perry is really starting to annoy me.

When Rick Perry announced he was running for president back on August 13, to tell you the truth I got a little excited.

Now I know what you're thinking -- James you are a big Democrat, why on earth would you be excited about Perry running for president? And as Ricky used to tell Lucy -- I got some 'splainin to do.

This was my thinking: Perry would get in and he would be a major force. After all he was governor of the state of Texas, great hair, been around politics for a while.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/28/opinion/carville-rick-per...
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 03:32 PM
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1. I don't think he's toast yet
The sun is setting, but he's got millions in the bank and organization that Cain doesn't have. He will stick around until well into spring, I believe, when the GOP primaries cease being proportionate and move to winner-take-all. This portends a long fight to the nomination for Romney and not-Romney (whether that is Cain or Perry or someone else).

What would be real fun is if they went all the way to their convention without the nominee settled, and a floor fight ensued. With the Paulites standing somewhere on the outside looking in and contemplating a Libertarian bid. :evilgrin:
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lg59kis Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 05:09 PM
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2. I agree. He's still got some fight in him still
Unfortunately
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 07:41 PM
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3. Perry's "Bizarre" New Hampshire Cornerstone Speech
Texas Tribune 10/30/11
Perry's "Bizarre" New Hampshire Cornerstone Speech

A giddy Gov. Rick Perry was fidgety and full of exuberance in this must-watch speech recorded in New Hampshire Friday night.

The revealing video appears to have gone viral. Business Insider called it the Bizarre Video of Rick Perry That Everyone is Talking About. Fox News linked to the YouTube sensation, a compilation of the giddiest moments from the speech, saying it shows Perry Uncorked in One of His Wildest Speeches Yet.


The wheels have fallen off....
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 01:15 PM
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4. Cain is imploding today. The door is re-opening for Perry.
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 05:41 PM
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5. The door is re opening because Cain is imploding
But I don't think it will be for Perry after that Friday night Cornerstone speech.

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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 06:45 PM
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6. Down the rabbit hole to hell.
May seem bizarre to most normal people, but he's speaking GOP's language.
Insanity laced with the awkwardness that comes when they are FORCED to interact with regular folks.
No clue how to mimic a real person and so it comes off as some bizarre distortion.
Of course he needed a little 'help' in order to make it down the rabbit hole.
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 08:34 PM
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7. Yeah, you right.
Nemmind what I said before. I watched Keith's, Ed's, and Rachel's takedown of Goodhair cuddling that tiny syrup bottle. There's no comeback there.

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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 12:37 PM
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8. "Best case scenario: That dudes hammered"
First Reading blog AAS 11/1/11
First Reading: Jon Stewart weighs in on Perrys unusual New Hampshire speech

You didnt think the Daily Shows Jon Stewart was just going to let Gov. Rick Perrys bizarre Friday speech in New Hampshire pass right by without taking a swing, did you?

In the speech, Perry giggles at his own jokes, is particularly animated, sways back and forth and over-reacts with joy when given a bottle of maple syrup by his hosts.

Stewart: Best case scenario: That dudes hammered. Worst case scenario: That is Perry sober, and every time weve seen him previously, hes been hammered. Or, there is one other explanation. Rick Perry just got back from the dentist.


Link to the video at Comedy Central
The Perry part comes at about 5:20 into the clip.

:spray: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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white cloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 02:58 PM
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10. Hilarious
Hammered

K&R
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onestepforward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 02:52 PM
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9. The wheels have definitely fallen off!
Holy cow! That was the most bizarre speech that I've ever seen.

:rofl:
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 08:06 PM
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11. Does Rick Perry have a passion dealer?
Remember how the media crucified Howard Dean for being "passionate" I mean they really destroyed his bid that year just for being excited. Rick Perry is calling his speech "passionate" why isn't the main stream media totally trashing him too?

Oh there are some writers who are:
Washington Post ComPost blog 10/31/11
Rick Perry, drunk? No! Get me some of Rick Perrys passion!

(snip)
Does Rick Perry have a passion dealer? I would like access to whatever results in a speech like this. It looks essentially like alcohol, or the combination of alcohol with horse tranquillizers, but apparently its all natural.

They say to be careful not to drink to excess because you will embarrass yourself in public by saying stupid things, pulling asinine faces, and making your shoulders dance. It turns out that you should avoid "passion" for the same reason.

The last time Rick Perry was what Mark Miner called passionate, he called Ben Bernanke treasonous. This time, he wiggled and waggled and generally acted like a George W. Bush impersonator from mid-2000s SNL.


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white cloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-01-11 10:31 PM
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12. Amazing what moral character and family values the rethuglicans have dug up
Edited on Tue Nov-01-11 10:34 PM by white cloud
Tuesday, November 1, 2011 -- 10:04 PM EDT
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Cain Accuser Got a Years Salary in Severance Pay

The National Restaurant Association gave $35,000 a years salary in severance pay to a female staff member in the late 1990s after an encounter with Herman Cain, its chief executive at the time, made her uncomfortable working there, three people with direct knowledge of the payment said on Tuesday.

The woman was one of two whose accusations of sexual harassment by Mr. Cain, now a Republican candidate for president, led to paid severance agreements during his 1996-99 tenure as the associations chief. Disclosure of the cases has rocked Mr. Cains campaign just as he was surging in polls.

Further challenging Mr. Cain, a lawyer for the second woman called on the restaurant association to release her from a confidentiality agreement signed as part of her settlement, raising the prospect that she could publicly dispute Mr. Cains account of what happened.

Read More:
http://www.nytimes.com/?emc=na



Perry rises to the top of the dump again.
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white cloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 01:37 PM
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13. More than a third of Texans say Perry's campaign is hurting the state's image
Perry repeatedly cites his stewardship over the robust Texas economy as a fundamental selling point in presidential bid. But the poll, by the University of Texas and The Texas Tribune, found that 65 percent of those surveyed credited Texas' economic success to long-standing advantages such as natural resources, a constitutionally mandated balanced budget and the absence of a state income tax.

Twenty-one percent said Perry's leadership helped Texas fare better than the rest of the country, citing his adherence to lower taxes, lenient regulation and small government.

The survey also found that Texans are divided over whether Perry's first national campaign is having an effect on Texas' image outside the state. Thirty-seven percent say it has hurt the state's image, 34 percent say it has had no effect, and 19 percent say it has helped the state's image. The poll's margin of error was plus or minus 3.46 percentage points.


Read more: http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/11/01/3492303/more-th...

http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/11/01/3492303/more-th...
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white cloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 03:37 PM
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14. House speaker says Texas received 'an assault on higher education'
By Aman Batheja

abatheja@star-telegram.com

FORT WORTH -- Texas House Speaker Joe Straus said Tuesday that Texas was subjected to "an assault on higher education" this year from critics of how Texas universities finance academic research, an issue that was championed by Gov. Rick Perry.

An intense debate on the future of public higher education erupted this year when Perry appointed a new chairman to the UT System board of regents with a record of dismissing much academic research.

In a wide-ranging interview with the Star-Telegram Editorial Board, Straus said he agreed with many of the goals touted by critics in the debate, such as promoting greater efficiency at the schools, but was concerned about how its tenor affected the state's image.


Read more: http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/11/01/3492342/house-s...
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 03:38 PM
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15. Should be higher
You would think that at least 51% of Texans should finally see some light. That's why we're stuck so close to the bottom these days. People in Texas are asleep at the voting wheel and the guys driving the train are headed for a full on collision.

That 34% that say Perry's idiot performance nationally, has had no effect on Texas, must be taking meth!

:banghead:
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:18 PM
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16. SNL Does Rick Perry - video
Texas Tribune 11/6/11

SNL Does Rick Perry

You're nobody in politics, entertainment, etc. until Saturday Night Live takes an extended whack at you. Well, last night was pinata time for Gov. Rick Perry, who "appeared" on the show's Weekend Update segment to explain that much-discussed speech in New Hampshire.


Freaking hilarious! "I'm so bad at talking Seth. So bad at talking. I would be such a good president if there wasn't so much talking involved."
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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white cloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:29 PM
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17. We rolled
It was funny
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 09:55 PM
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18. bwahahahahahaha
:rofl:

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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 09:33 AM
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19. Is Perry Toast?
Five Thirty Eight on NYT 11/10/11
Is Perry Toast?

Almost immediately after what will probably be remembered as the Bill Buckner moment of primary debates, when Texas Gov. Rick Perry literally forgot which governmental agencies he would cut and concluded his answer with a sheepish Oops, Mr. Perrys stock on the betting market Intrade dropped in half. Tabbed as having about a 9 percent chance of winning the Republican nomination before the debate, the market revised his odds downward to 4 percent just moments after the gaffe.

(snip)
I know it looks bad for Mr. Perry but he still has some things working in his favor, like money, a good team of advisers surrounding him, and his impressive jobs credentials down in Texas. Assuming that the gaffe causes some further slippage in his polling, might there be time for him to come back as well?

Heres the problem for Mr. Perry: There isnt all that much time left. Iowa will vote less than two months from today, with New Hampshire and South Carolina following on its heels. This is about the point in time at which voters, donors, and party officials need to think tactically, betting on a horse who they think can win. Thus, Mr. Perrys demise could be a self-fulfilling prophecy: If everyone thinks he is going to lose, he almost certainly will.

My guess is that some Republicans will be inclined to step in, look at the stuggles of Mr. Perry and Mr. Cain, and declare Mitt Romney the winner by a T.K.O. That may or may not go over well with voters, but Mr. Romney could begin to consolidate his support in the party establishment.


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white cloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 05:20 PM
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20. LOL great job Perry
Wonder how Perry would handle that football when he gets the famous Palin "call at 3:00 am in the morning" dah


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yLmZi3Cvag
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-11 11:42 PM
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21. Awesome video
Thanks for the link.

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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-11 12:21 PM
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22. Perry is fifth in Iowa
Tuesday morning funny at Perry's expense.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Postcards from the Lege blog AAS 11/15/11
Perry is fifth in Iowa

The top four Republican presidential candidates are bunched closely together at the top of a new Bloomberg poll.

Unfortunately for Gov. Rick Perry, however, hes in fifth place.

The poll puts businessman Herman Cain in first place among Iowans likely to participate in the states GOP caucuses on Jan. 3, with 20 percent support. Following Cain are U.S. Rep. Ron Paul of Texas at 19 percent, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney at 18 percent and former U.S. House Speaker Newt Gingrich at 17 percent.

Perry is next at 7 percent.
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