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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 07:59 AM
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4.6 mag. earthquake southeast of San Antonio Tx.
Edited on Thu Oct-20-11 08:32 AM by Dover
Source: t.v. report - local abc affiliate

South and east of San Antonio (Karnes City). No damage reported. Is it related to drilling/fracking?

http://folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu/recenteqs/Quakes/quake...



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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 08:01 AM
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1. Rick Perry must have been praying for rain again. n/t
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 08:07 AM
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2. Frankly,
I don't think God pays a whole lot of attention to Mr. Perry.

I know if *I* were God, I'd plug up my ears whenever that buffoon took to his knees. And I might feel a bit guilty about the innocent people who would suffer as a result, but. . . .
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fegi052li Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 05:10 PM
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23. yep. that's probably it.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 08:14 AM
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3. Natural Gas Fracking Boom in South Texas
http://www.woai.com/content/troubleshooters/story/Natur...

Published: 11/22/2010 SAN ANTONIO - There is an energy boom going on right in our own back yard. Drilling companies have discovered how to unlock a vast supply of energy beneath South Texas. But activists, celebrities and even the federal government are concerned about the effects it could have on our air and water. News 4 WOAI Trouble Shooter Jaie Avila investigates the process known as "fracking."

Avila was given a rare tour of a natural gas rig, one of many that has popped up in South Texas, as energy companies flock here to get access to a source of cleaner energy trapped in the rocks beneath our feet. It could bring hundreds of jobs to our region, but they are using a method that is controversial, and some say, dangerous.

Drilling company Pioneer Resources gave us a close up look at their drilling operation about 50 miles south of San Antonio, in Campbellton. Their rig is drilling down 8,000 feet to reach a kind of rock called shale, that contains natural gas. A massive formation, called the Eagle Ford Shale, runs from the Mexico border, up to just south of San Antonio.

"It might be the largest on-shore oil and natural gas find in the continental U.S. in the last fifty years," says Justin Furnace with the Texas Independent Producers and Royalty Owner's Association.

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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 08:30 AM
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5. Yep.....fracking strikes again. When will this be STOPPED??!!!n/t
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 08:45 AM
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8. The question is how will this be stopped? If the .01% own our government
Edited on Thu Oct-20-11 08:45 AM by valerief
including our military (who get most of our tax dollars), we have to fight against the tsunami of daily brainwashing drowning our judgment first. When we do that, we have to fight against the all powerful military next. So then what do the survivors do? That's what I want to know.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 08:51 AM
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10. ,,,the 'real' revolution is just beginning. It will be a battle, but we will overcome.
Is there really ANY other choice?
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 08:52 AM
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11. That doesn't answer my HOW question. I want to have hope, but I'm not a magic thinker.
Edited on Thu Oct-20-11 08:54 AM by valerief
HOW do we fight the US military fighting us?
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 08:59 AM
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12. Our biggest asset is our numbers...so I'm guessing it's just a matter of
Edited on Thu Oct-20-11 09:07 AM by Dover
deciding together which action.

Much of the time answers and outcomes aren't apparent at the beginning of something. That's where faith and holding together come in.
No one can give you that assurance you're looking for. It's got to come from within...or not.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 08:38 AM
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6. Freaking Frackers (R)
Edited on Thu Oct-20-11 08:39 AM by SpiralHawk
This is one of the dumber schemes -- among many dumb schemes -- for raping the Earth that a few fatcats (R) might profit while everyone else suffers.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 08:19 AM
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4. New Oil Patches Sprout Across Nation - Karnes City, Tx (where the quake happened)
Edited on Thu Oct-20-11 08:20 AM by Dover
KARNES CITY, Texas A surge in oil drilling is transforming this rural south Texas community, and with it, American energy production. Drawn by high oil prices and new technologies that make it possible to extract oil from the dense rock that lies beneath much of the region, major energy players are raining cash on the county and its residents.

A similar wave is beginning to visit parts of North Dakota, Colorado and west Texas. The surge in onshore oil exploration is helping reverse the decades-long decline of domestic oil production, which increased slightly in 2009 for the first time in more than 20 years...CONT'D


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704865704...
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 08:47 AM
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9. So I guess the safest places to live are DC and Virginia. The agents of the .01%ers
Edited on Thu Oct-20-11 08:47 AM by valerief
(the government and lobbyists) won't want their DC homes earthquaked so they'll make sure no fracking or drilling goes on there.
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Greybnk48 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 08:40 AM
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7. The first thing I thought of before reading other comments
was fracking!
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 07:44 AM
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25. Ya know, it will be interesting to see if local media will investigate this.
I can just imagine the pressure from big energy interests to control the message...
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 09:59 AM
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13. Earthquake hits south of San Antonio
KXAN News 10/20/11
Earthquake hits south of San Antonio

CAMPBELLTON, Texas (KXAN) - An earthquake centered in Campbellton, Texas shook the area early Thursday morning.

Preliminary reports from the U.S. Geological Survey said the 4.6-magnitude earthquake hit at 7:24 a.m. in the area about 50 miles south of San Antonio.

The USGS world map of earthquakes shows this is the only earthquake to have happened Thursday. Many of the North American earthquakes that happened within the last week popped up in Hawaii and Alaska.


I would say fracking probably contributed to it and maybe even this horrible drought as well. When you have such a dry spell as we've had - even the rocks get drier and more brittle.

I had no idea the drillers were fracking in South Texas already. :(
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 10:41 AM
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14. Thanks for finding that article Sonia!
Edited on Thu Oct-20-11 10:45 AM by Dover
I wasn't aware of the fracking OR the controversy about it last year either. But I will say that there
seems to be an awful lot of evidence mounting about the detrimental effects of this fracking practice and
there's probably no coincidence that this 'eartchquake' happened where this is taking place. In fact
this fracking/drilling relationship to earthquakes has come up before in other parts of Texas and yet
it STILL goes on!
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 01:45 PM
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15. Maybe we should be sending our concerns to Pioneer Resources
http://www.woai.com/content/troubleshooters/story/Natur...

11/22/2010

Drilling company Pioneer Resources gave us a close up look at their drilling operation about 50 miles south of San Antonio, in Campbellton. Their rig is drilling down 8,000 feet to reach a kind of rock called shale, that contains natural gas. A massive formation, called the Eagle Ford Shale, runs from the Mexico border, up to just south of San Antonio. . . .

Back in Campbellton, I put those concerns to Justin Furnace, who acts as a spokesman for Pioneer Resources and other drilling companies. I asked Furnace if fracking is a threat to our water.

"Absolutely not," he replied. . . .

Drilling companies claim there's no truth to another concern about fracking: A recent study found hydraulic fracturing could be the cause of small earthquakes in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area the past couple of years. The EPA is currently investigating the process of hydraulic fracturing, but the energy companies say they're confident it will be deemed safe, and will be a big part of America's energy future.

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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 01:46 PM
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16. And here's Justin Furnace's info, if you want to get in touch
Edited on Thu Oct-20-11 01:47 PM by starroute
This is a business and not a personal listing, so I don't see any reason not to post it:

http://www.texastribune.org/library/data/lobbying/lobby... /

Name
Justin Furnace
State Ethics ID
66760
Occupation
Texas Independent Producers & Royalty Owners Association
Phone
512-477-4452
Address
919 Congress Avenue Suite 1000
Austin, TX, 78701


http://www.texastribune.org/festival/energy-environment /

Furnace is the president of the Texas Independent Producers & Royalty Owners Association, a trade association representing the interests of more than 2,300 independent oil and natural gas producers and royalty owners throughout Texas. Furnace previously served as chief of staff and legal counsel to Chairman Victor Carrillo of the Texas Railroad Commission, where he was the chairman's top policy adviser.

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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 03:07 PM
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17. II think it's going to take more than letters of concern
and it doesn't seem the EPA stands up to the oil/gas companies. These are multi-billion dollar companies and
deals such as this one tells me they feel VERY confident that they can go ahead and do as they please.
The big money is on natural gas blasted from shale rocks.


Shale-Gas Frenzy Drives Kinder Morgan's $21.1 Billion Offer for El Paso Corp.

HOUSTONOne of the nation's largest operators of natural-gas pipelines is buying a rival for $21.1 billion in cash and stock, making a big bet that natural gas blasted from shale rocks around the country will become a huge force in America's energy future.

Pipeline giant Kinder Morgan Inc. says that by buying rival El Paso Corp. it will become the largest operator of natural-gas pipelines in the country, and the fourth-largest energy company in the U.S.... cont'd

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204346104...

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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 04:31 PM
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22. E.P.A. to Tighten Rules on Wastewater Disposal (FRACKING!)
Good news! Supposed to go into effect by 2014.
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TexasTowelie Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 01:27 AM
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20. Hi Sonia,
I wanted to point you to the local coverage links in post #18.
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-11 02:26 PM
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21. Thanks!
Edited on Fri Oct-21-11 02:29 PM by sonias
It'a always great to see the local opinion.

Earthquake? Are we fracking up? Ok so there has been some quake history in the past. Always good to make sure that an area that is supposed to be prone to this activity doesn't have more because of the fracking.

I would say keep on top of it and don't let them say it's Mother Nature just being Mother Nature. At least without more study on their part too. Keep records of all the activity you notice.

:kick:
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TexasTowelie Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 05:03 PM
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18. More news articles from the rural newspaper covering that region of the state.
Here are several links to articles from mysoutex.com which covers Karnes County. The Website is for a very conservative family newspaper, so there might be some comments in the vein of lets keep exploiting and pillaging the planet.

I was raised in that area of the state and used to go fishing on some private ranchs near the epicenter.

The breaking news report.

http://mysoutex.com/view/full_story_karnes/16111366/art...

The next link contains a map image that also provides information about other earthquakes in the area.

http://mysoutex.com/view/full_story_karnes/16111932/art...

Finally, an article questioning if there is any correlation with the fracking occurring in the Eagle Ford shale formation.

http://mysoutex.com/view/full_story_karnes/16114809/art...
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 11:22 PM
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19. Really interesting to read the local discussion. Thanks.
Glad they are wondering about the fracking too.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-11 07:40 AM
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24. Apparently a fracking-related earthquake just happened in England too
Edited on Sun Oct-23-11 07:40 AM by Dover
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