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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:49 AM
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Looking for Gunderson Steel Fabrication information / anecdotes
(posted in both TX & OR forums)


Im looking for information about the Gunderson Steel Fabrication manufacturing plants in TX & OR. There are allegations that Gunderson has / had a secret government contract to produce rail boxcars with shackles as well as guillotines.

The allegations smell a bit fundy to me, but would like your input. If possible, please provide links to web resources.

Thanks.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:54 AM
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1. Good heavens!
Where in TX is the plant located? And -- this is just me being curious -- what are the allegations/ where is the original source, if you can post it?
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 12:09 PM
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3. links and answers
google: gunderson steel fabrication
I got 643 hits.

I can't find any info on the Texas plant. (The Portland, OR plant was easy to find.)

Gunderson, Inc. is the parent company of Gunderson Stell Fabrication.

The Greenbrier Companies is the parent of Gunderson, Inc.

Here's the original article I am trying to research:
http://www.issuesandalibis.org/campsd.html



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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 12:13 PM
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5. Indymedia Portland
Link from Portland Media...

Not again! 10.Feb.2005 17:29

Weld Red link


This article gave me a good laugh. But it is sad to see such balderdash on Portland indymedia.
This nonsense appeared a while ago saying the same thing
I've worked at Gunderson Inc for many years, so let's get a few facts straight.
One we haven't built boxcars for a few years now in Portland. They are made down in Mexico; we only build container cars these days.
The 'shackles' are dimples which are with a small piece of metal going across which is used for tying goods down.
Think about it, why would you bother putting prisoners in shackles anyway. The Nazis in
Germany just herded people onto a box car at the point of a gun, and then shut the door. It's hard to cut through steel with your finger nails.
And they could just use the containers if they wanted to transport prisoners, like they have used in Afghanistan and Iraq.
And who the hell is Brent Gunderson? Gunderson has been owned by Greenbrier since around 1985. There is no 'Brent' or any other Gunderson on the board at Greenbrier.
And 'three tier' boxcars? What on earth is this person going on about?
I can only imagine this person is talking about the automax which transports cars.
The funniest thing is a 'guillotine.' What kind of a guillotine are we talking about? And just what are they going to use this for? If they are going to execute people why go to all this bother?
20,000 Chinese boxcars/containers? Very probable they are stacked up because when goods are imported in them, it is cheaper to scrap the containers than send them back empty.
AH, that's it! We are all going to be shipped off to China in these containers. Well at least George Bush doesn't live there.
Come on folks lets get serious about things, enough of these stupid posts.
We have a battle to win. The one at Gunderson isn't shackled boxcars, but wages, jobs, pensions, vacation, etc.

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/02/310410.shtml
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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:59 AM
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2. Smells like a hoax to me
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&safe=off...

The link from Indymedia in Portland is indicative.
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 12:11 PM
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4. Yes. I'm finding lots of inconsistencies myself.
Edited on Sun Jun-12-05 12:12 PM by unhappycamper
But - I had to ask.

I'll be offine for a few hours but will check back later.

on edit: to add I'll be outta pocket for a while.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 12:13 PM
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6. There is no steel fabricator in Oregon with that name.
Nor in Texas according to anywho.
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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 12:35 PM
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7. It's called gunderson inc.
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