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RI man charged with operating on his own dog
RI man charged with operating on his own dog

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(02-05) 15:08 PST Barrington, R.I. (AP) --

A Rhode Island man who says he couldn't afford veterinary care for his dog has been charged with illegally operating on the pet.


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Alan MacQuattie recently removed a cyst from the leg of his 14-year-old Labrador mix. The dog was operated on again by professionals to deal with an infection from the first surgery.

MacQuattie, 63, who says he is disabled and living on Social Security, said Friday he used local anesthetic to operate on the cyst and removed it on his own since he doesn't have money for a veterinarian.

"In the economy as it is right now, especially in Rhode Island, who in the hell is going to give you a little extra helping hand?" he said.

E.J. Finocchio, a veterinarian and president of the Rhode Island Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, called the surgery a "heinous crime."


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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 06:38 PM
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1. Not condoning this, but who knew it was illegal to operate on your pet?
:shrug:
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 06:50 PM
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5. ME? Ever hear of a veterinary license?
:crazy:

You can't practice veterinary medicine without a license any more than dentistry or regular human medicine.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 06:51 PM
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6. How about if I remove porcupine quills from a dog's nose?
Is that technically surgery?
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 06:56 PM
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11. did you use a scalpel to cut him open? if not then it is first aid
but you should still have the vet look at it for infections.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 06:59 PM
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15. Pliers
Operating on a pet is obviously a very bad idea BUT I'm continually astounded by how this fucking culture criminalizes everything!
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 07:03 PM
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19. Then you should have gone to the vet. If your medical incompetence and cheapness
causes great pain and suffering then YES it should be criminalized.

People go to school for a reason to learn how to be a vet or a lawyer or what have you.

There's no Veterinary Surgical Procedures for Dummies book available.

:crazy:
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 07:14 PM
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36. 'cheapness' so this is a Class issue?
figured as much
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 07:18 PM
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38. oh brother...
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kj8750 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 03:15 PM
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87. Wuhan, China
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 07:24 PM
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42. Yes, if you are too "cheap" to take your pet to the vet, it should be a crime
Edited on Fri Feb-05-10 07:39 PM by uppityperson
see?

Edited to add :sarcasm: for those who may think I'm serious
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 07:29 PM
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46. Got it
Unbelievable

Not sure whether to :rofl: or :cry:
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 07:40 PM
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53. Yup
I went back and added the sarcasm thingie since someone was confused.
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kj8750 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 04:18 PM
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kj8750 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-10 04:13 PM
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farmout rightarm Donating Member (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 07:31 PM
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47. Where does that obligation begin? If you use a needle to take a splinter out of your child's finger
that's technically "surgery"...is that different somehow?
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 07:38 PM
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52. The post you are replying to was sarcastic
Try again to the person I'm arguing with.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 06:53 PM
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7. But aren't pets considered property?
But yeah, operating on your pet when you have no clue what you are doing can't ever be a good idea. I am certainly not for it.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 06:57 PM
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12. So are aircraft but the pesky gov't insists you have a license to work on them too.
:eyes:
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 06:59 PM
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16. But not cars? See that is messed up because both could
cause major destruction if done wrong. Like I said, I am not for it. I would never operate on my animals. But in a court of law they are considered property.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 07:04 PM
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21. There ought to be a license for cars too..as it is most are certified through
ASE though.

They ARE considered property but have certain rights against cruelty and mistreatment that exceeds ordinary property.
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farmout rightarm Donating Member (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 07:08 PM
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26. Pesky government...is the right description there. Actually, I have had an A&P license for
40 years but I think it's bullshit that it's -required- for me to work on my own airplane. (I got the ticket just to see if I could...in addition to my other {flight} ratings.)
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 07:10 PM
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32. Yeah, I'm a pilot and an aerospace engineer but a lot of plane owners are just rich idiots.
Beech Bozanzas have the nickname of "doctor killer" for a reason. Lots of docs and lawyers who are great in the operating room or cour room think they're great at everything in life - including flying - they're not. That's why we need licenses to fly and maintain them.

Of course homebuilts only need a "repairman's certificate" however and not the A&P.
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farmout rightarm Donating Member (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 07:21 PM
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40. Small world...l am also an engineer (from back when it was "aeronautical") and ATP rated pilot
since 1965. I'm pretty familiar with the doctor/lawyer killer Bonanzas...I instructed several of those types
in the v-tails...some were okay and some were scary. One lawyer who was actually a personal friend of mine, I signed off for his private ticket went on and sold the nanza and bought a 310 - somebody got him the ME rating in it and he flew it into a mountain outside Salida, CO killing himself and 2 of his kids. The thing is, not many rich idiots -have- any desire to do their own maintenance. Probably none of them do. I did all the work on my PT-22 even before I got the A&P a very long time ago but I was prepared to accept the results of my own work...I still have more trust in myself than others. That seems to not be a popular Democratic position these days...
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 07:26 PM
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43. "I still have more trust in myself than others.That seems to not be a popular Democratic position.."
"I still have more trust in myself than others. That seems to not be a popular Democratic position these days."

What do you mean?

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farmout rightarm Donating Member (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 07:36 PM
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48. I meant it totally within the context of this particular thread..sorry I didn't make that clear.
There seems to be some condemnation of attempts to handle ones own problems with the suggestion that doing so is inappropriate. Maybe I'm not reading them correctly...?
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 07:38 PM
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51. Seems that is one poster.
Just because someone is on DU does not mean a poster is a Democrat. How's winter? Any flooding expected? (ex-Fargonian here)
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farmout rightarm Donating Member (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 07:43 PM
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55. Hi, I know what you mean...well so far the winter is pretty normal, more snow on the way
but it's actually almost warm I think about 30F right now. But there's a lot of snow on the ground here not sure about down south we could have a lot of melt in a few weeks hopefully not all at once. :-)
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 07:24 PM
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41. My father-in-law builds his own planes.
Of course he also co-owns a company that builds and sells small private planes.
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freeplessinseattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 03:11 PM
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62. ah, no wonder you have no clue what it is like to be poor n/t
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zx_3500 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 03:22 AM
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64. hardly justifies such heinous acts
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 06:58 PM
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14. I can't take out a splinter, need to have a doctor do it? Can't clean my own teeth?
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 07:05 PM
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23. Splinter - it depends. Clean your teeth? How? other than brushing you really don't have the
equipment.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 07:08 PM
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27. You assume too much. I do have the equipment. Yes, you can buy those dental picks
those little scrapers and ice picks. You can use them on yourself but not on others. There are things you can do to yourself, legally.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 07:11 PM
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34. Umm good luck with that..
:rofl:
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 07:13 PM
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35. Thank you. Point is that it isn't illegal. That is the point which you seem
to be passing over. calling something illegal which isn't.

Stupidity is another thing. And yes, I have the dental scrapers, was told I could use them for a couple teeth that have issues faster than the others.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 07:17 PM
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37. Operating on your dog is ILLEGAL. At least here in FL.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 07:19 PM
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39. Article is RI and "You can't practice veterinary medicine without a license any more than ..."
Start of this subthread, trying to stay on the topic...
"You can't practice veterinary medicine without a license any more than dentistry or regular human medicine."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

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farmout rightarm Donating Member (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 07:37 PM
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49. So is adoption by gay people.
I think you're full of it on this issue, Doug. (I don't know you except for the posts I've seen the last few months and generally I'm totally on your side but not on this one)
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 07:10 PM
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31. How does it "depend"? Can I use a needle and tweezers? those are medical
equipment also.
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tmyers09 Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 06:46 PM
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2. It's why I believe when we get a single payer system,
it must include veterinary care.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 06:48 PM
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3. Vetinary prices are madness.
Not condoning it, but I know if something happened to my cat I'd have to let him suffer and die, as I can't even afford to euthanize him if it came to that.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 06:55 PM
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9. They will euthanize pretty darned cheaply..for a cat it's about 20 bucks.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 07:05 PM
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22. Not around here.
Edited on Fri Feb-05-10 07:06 PM by Forkboy
My father has had to put down three in the last two years for a combined total of over $400. I don't have an extra $133 for anything, even this.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 07:07 PM
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25. WOW.. I had a momma cat leave three of her kittens under the hood of my car
up near the front and 2 of them had to be put down once I discovered them there due to injuries and it was only like 40 bucks.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 07:11 PM
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33. My aunt got her dog cremated for $25.
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kj8750 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 11:48 AM
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 06:55 PM
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10. That they are. TAking my dogs to the vet for their shots ends up
costing me bunches. That isn't counting if they have some sort of ailment. And the emergency after-hours clinic? $75 just to walk in the door. That doesn't include any examination, etc.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 06:57 PM
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13. still a lot cheaper than people medicine.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 07:01 PM
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18. ok. And where did that come from? Were we discussing that?
I so thought we were talking about pets.

I happen to be a person. And I happen to take some medication. I also have a small child.I know about medical costs thankyouverymuch.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 07:09 PM
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28. so? What does that have to do with the topic at hand?
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farmout rightarm Donating Member (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 07:03 PM
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20. Years ago our Golden Retriever developed throat cancer...I took him to the vet
(we give our doggies and kitties the best care we can) and she said he might live another year with several thousand dollars in treatment. He had a cancerous cyst in his throat that had gotten as big as a golf ball and was growing...I cut it out one night with some sharp scissors and he was able to eat properly for the first time in months. Now I don't pretend to claim I can understand dog-talk but it sure seemed that he was grateful
for that short reprieve...the old fellow (17 years) never stopped loving us as far as we could tell. He made it almost 2 years after that and I really believe he was as happy as he seemed to be. On his last day, he was
in the house and laid his chin on my leg and looked at me with those loving eyes...I patted his head, he
turned and walked down the steps to the patio and within 10 seconds and simply fell over dead. I won't ever
regret doing that small 'surgery' on my big golden buddy.

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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 08:08 PM
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56. You cut out his cancerous cyst with scissors?
Did you numb it? Was there lots of bleeding?

I understand how hard it must be when you can't afford to keep your baby dog alive but can afford to put them down. That does sound extreme though and it seems like it could cause a painful death for the dog.

I had 2 goldens growing up,and I think they are the most awesome dogs. Sounds like yours lived quite a long time for a big dog. Must have been hard to say goodbye. I have a golden mix now. He is 112 lbs. He is huge. He is mixed with Australian shepherd. If we ever rescue a full breed again, it will be a golden or a basset hound. Something in me wants a basset hound. I already have a name for him. Floyd. :)
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kj8750 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 02:23 AM
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114. plymouth
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kj8750 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 02:23 AM
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113. preston
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MerryBlooms Donating Member (940 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 07:37 PM
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50. $49 for the office visit
and then $100 for euthanization at my vet. Then the cold hard fact of body disposal. :( you can have your loved one cremated for another $200 + urn, or another $25 for disposal at the county landfill, because you're not allowed to bury your pet on your property anymore. Sharing your life and home with a cat or dog now days has truly become a luxury. So sad.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 08:52 PM
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58. That's about what it was for my father when he took his cats.
I do think he was allowed to bury them where he wanted though, not sure. I know when my old cat had to be put to sleep my father and I climbed a mountain and buried him up there, but that was awhile ago now.
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kj8750 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 02:24 AM
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115. lichfield
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zx_3500 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 03:22 AM
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65. So true
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kj8750 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-10 08:41 PM
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104. Chichester
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 06:50 PM
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4. My big sister did the same thing.
Operated on our big collie, out in the front yard. Dog had an abscess the size of a golf ball on her elbow.

This was almost 30 years ago.
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kj8750 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 02:26 AM
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116. norwich
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farmout rightarm Donating Member (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 06:54 PM
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8. Good grief
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kj8750 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 02:30 AM
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117. portsmouth
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 07:01 PM
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17. Ever since the vets decided that they too, like the dentists, would rather become a
millionaires rather than merely helping animals, this kind of thing is becoming more and more common.


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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 07:09 PM
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29. not my vet.
he's a bit pricey, but not outrageous and certainly not in it to be a millionaire. i guess i'm lucky.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 07:26 PM
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44. My vet also. He works with all of his "baby's" parents on costs.
He allows a payment plan if it is over $300. He calls all the pets "babies". He also sends sympathy cards when one crosses the rainbow bridge. Bedside manner is about as important as skill when it comes to any doctor, IMO.
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kj8750 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 03:13 AM
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120. Otago
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kj8750 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 02:48 AM
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119. chichester
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farmout rightarm Donating Member (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 07:10 PM
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30. Sadly, you are exactly right...in MANY cases. My niece recently got her vet license
that she pursued because of her love of animals. I am desperately hoping she keeps that motivation...too many do not.
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kj8750 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 03:24 AM
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121. madrid
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kj8750 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 02:45 AM
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118. Bristol
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 07:06 PM
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24. I know some human surgeons do this.
But they probably would do a pretty good job, especially on something like a cyst.
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kj8750 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 03:37 AM
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122. derbyshire
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 07:27 PM
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45. He shouldn't have been charged. (nt)
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kj8750 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 03:38 AM
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madville Donating Member (743 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 07:40 PM
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54. My granddad used to do all the care for his dogs himself
Shots, vaccinations, infections/abscesses, stitches, cysts, etc. He was pretty good with it. These were all mostly hunting dogs though. If you do it correctly I don't see why that should be a crime.
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kj8750 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 03:41 AM
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 08:45 PM
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57. I operate on myself, and I'll damn well operate on my dog if I choose to. Sue me.
What this man did isn't anything thousands of others haven't done over generations of animal husbandry.

He did it poorly, though, without proper disinfectant, and that is sad.

I've done more than one thing on my own body without ill effect, using scalpels and disinfectants.

I've never, however, done anything like this with my animals, but then I'm not living on S.S.

:patriot:
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zx_3500 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 03:23 AM
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67. to each his own
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kj8750 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 03:43 AM
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125. burlington
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mantis49 Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 08:58 PM
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59. "heinous crime" is a little over the top
Just sayin'
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kj8750 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-10 03:45 AM
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 09:24 PM
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60. The problem is in the level of surgery he attempted.
Yeah, we administer meds here at our rescue. We even put in/remove stitches, drains, etc. My partner/roomie is an advanced vet tech and has done all of this stuff a million times. No big deal. However, we'd never consider removing a cyst or any other form of surgery of that level.

Yes, vet care is expensive and I don't have issue with him trying to help his dog, but this was way beyond the ability of anyone without proper training, evidenced by the need for the pros to fix his mess.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 09:27 PM
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61. Oh, that poor dog. Where did this guy get local anesthesia
that he knew he would work and where the hell did he get surgery skills. He shouldn't have any other animals. EVER.
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zx_3500 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 03:22 AM
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66. he probably made it himself
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zx_3500 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-10 03:19 AM
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63. what a terrible man
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80. appalling.
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