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Dickie Flatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:06 PM
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Breaking Poll: Kennedy Leads Wetterling 52/34
Edited on Sun Oct-24-04 10:15 PM by Dickie Flatt
Local news station KSTP released a poll this evening showing incumbant Republican Mark Kennedy with a significant lead.

Kennedy: 52%
Wetterling: 34%
Undecided: 14%

Results By Party:
DFL - 72% Wetterling, 14% Kennedy, 14% Undecided
GOP - 83% Kennedy, 9% Undecided, 8% Wetterling
IND - 46% Kennedy, 33% Wetterling, 21% Undecided

Results By Gender:
Men - 53% Kennedy, 32% Wetterling, 15% Undecided
Women - 51% Kennedy, 36% Wetterling, 13% Undecided


351 likely voters were polled by Gonzalez/Boyd Political Consulting between 10/18 and 10/21. The poll had a margin of error of 5.3%. Party Breakdown:
GOP - 44%
DFL - 33%
IND - 16%

Historical Data
2002 House Race: 57% Kennedy, 35% Roberts
2002 Senate Race: 59% Coleman (R), 38% Mondale
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:08 PM
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1. Bummer!
I hope those are one of those bogus polls.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:10 PM
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2. Consider the source
KSTP is awfully conservative (or just plain awful). I can't believe Kennedy would run the risk of going negative against Wetterling if he didn't have numbers that were telling him something different.
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northernsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:24 AM
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7. agreed
If Screech were truly safe, he'd be playing it safe by scarcely noting Wtterling's existence and saving his money for a senate run in 2006. If he's had to resort to attacking Minnesota's version of Mother Theresa and spending plenty of money to do it, I guarantee this race is a hell of a lot closer that Stanley Hubbard wants you to think it is.
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:35 PM
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3. I'm not a stat person but the party breakdown here favors the GOP by
11 percentage points. Did they adjust for this in their final numbers or is this just like Gallop?
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Dickie Flatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:42 PM
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4. It's reasonable
Edited on Sun Oct-24-04 10:42 PM by Dickie Flatt
Voting history suggests these numbers are probably reasonable; these people elected Kennedy with nearly 60%, and Coleman with the same.
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 11:25 PM
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5. now that is just fuggin' sad...
...lesson learned: sling shit; it works!
....Kennedy is slime.
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northernsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 09:22 AM
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6. this poll admits to having a margin of error above 5%
not to mention that it probably vastly over-sampled Republicans

Think about it, if Kennedy is so safe, why has he had to resort to running one shameful smear ads against Patty about every 10 seconds on TV?

This poll is pure horse pucky.
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 03:59 PM
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8. that was my question - does this excerpt indicate Repub oversampling?
Edited on Mon Oct-25-04 04:06 PM by jean
351 likely voters were polled by Gonzalez/Boyd Political Consulting between 10/18 and 10/21. The poll had a margin of error of 5.3%.

Party Breakdown:

GOP - 44%

DFL - 33%
IND - 16%


This new thread from today (Monday)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1166395

points out Gallop is , once again, oversampling Repubs - it looks much like this Wetterling/Kennedy poll - except in our MN poll there's an 11% point dominance of Repub likely voters!
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 08:46 PM
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11. One thing to consider
The 6th district IS heavily Repuke, at least according to most recent elections. I think Kennedy won with 60%+ of the vote last time.

That said, I still think this poll is B.S.
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lakeguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 07:11 PM
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9. there's no way the gop would be throwin money this way
if kennedy was THAT far ahead IMO. add in sampling error and the source too!
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Dickie Flatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 07:53 PM
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10. agree
Internal polling must look much different; if the race was really this far apart there's no way Kennedy would have gone so negative against Wetterling, and there's no way both the DCCC and NRCC would be dumping money into this race. You just don't see national involvement when an incumbant is cruising to re-election; despite this poll it's obvious Kennedy is in trouble.
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:04 AM
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12. I just saw this at Dailykos, regarding Patty
Minnesota 6 (R Incumbent)

Democrat Patty Wetterling is posing a strong challenge to Republican Mark Kennedy, remaining financially competitive and forcing the NRCC to pump money to rescue Kennedy's sorry ass. The DCCC is also vested in this race. ACT's operation in the state may net us this seat.

www.dailykos.com
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DFLforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:19 AM
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13. Even if this poll were accurate
Edited on Tue Oct-26-04 12:29 AM by DFLforever
Look at the big number of undecideds - 14%. That's not good for incumbent Screech, especially combined with Patty's total name recognition.

Also, wasn't this district recently redrawn to give Rethugs control of the district in perpetuity?

It looks like they're using this KSTP poll to do what they commissioned it to do - influence the outcome of the 6th CD election.
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