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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 10:39 AM
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"Granholm Sure was nasty and negative during last night's debate..."
Get off my answering machine. It is the same woman's voice every call, and the calls are wicked sounding. Anyone else?
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 11:10 AM
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1. Not yet.
But I'm never home when DeVoid's calls come in. Hubby always gets them and erases them.
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Hidden Stillness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 02:11 PM
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2. Yes; Pathological--I Was Going to Post This as a New Thread
I just received a bizarre, even "pathological" DeVos phone message today, and when I checked my phone messages, there was another that I was not aware of, from apparently about a week ago. The tone of voice of the operative pitching DeVos is like, a snot-assed, pissy teenage girl, (I kid you not; you know the voice if you have gotten any of these similar messages), and significantly, again, the messages are not attributed to the DeVos campaign or the Republican Party--isn't that a violation of campaign law? The kinds of advertising-agency trickery used during these messages shows just how slimy the campaign of Dick "Illegal Bribes" DeVos is.

The first message: It BEGINS, "Are you disgusted by Granholm's negative attacks? Well, it gets worse. Now, Granholm is attacking Dick DeVos's family. She's become just another disappointing politician. So, I want to know if she has a plan for education, environment, roads, or jobs--but all she does is attack. She has no plan. Did'ja see today's paper? Well, she wants to take away control from local public schools. She's become just too extreme. Granholm is a disappointment. Let's give change a chance."

Then, the highly offensive and factually lying message left this early afternoon: "Today's newspapers are right--Granholm sure was nasty and negative in last night's debate. No wonder she lost. She had no specifics, no plan for the future, and no ideas for another four years. In a word, she's--disappointing. Now, after her failure in the debate(s?), one newspaper noted, Granholm simply can't be trusted. She's so nasty and negative. She'll make up any story, just to get re-elected. When she can't be trusted, and has no plan or ideas for the future, how can WE support her? Jennifer Granholm is a disappointment." Hang-up.

These tactics, and the tone of DeVos's whole campaign, are so sleazy, so unethical, so devious, that a few things should be gone over. Notice that no "paper" is ever referred to, that apparently thinks Granholm is so "bad." They are relying on you to be so busy and overworked, etc., that you don't have time to follow everything that happens, and will therefore "seem to remember something," or "take their word for it," that there was any such thing....Or, maybe the "paper" was the "Amway Daily Mind Control." I take it the operative word of the DeVos campaign is "disappointment/disappointing"; apparently, we are supposed to be uncritically getting that word fixed in our heads and associated with Gov. Granholm--so, remember that, kids! "All she does is attack"..."no plans"..."no ideas"...This is "framing" and "spinning" here: No matter what the facts are or no matter what Granholm has answered or explained, it is ignored and "erased" by another round of Amway mind-controlling slogans that pretend none of it ever happened. Let your brain turn to mush, with Amway...1, 2, 3.. This is just like Bush and Cheney--no matter how disastrous everything gets, they grin, attack, fund-raise; they are impervious to reality, and so is DeVos. Everything is the next round of "corrective" slogans and smear.

Some are possibly actionable lies: "She wants to take away control from local public schools." This completely false, mischaracterization of a Granholm opinion, which does not even relate to this lie, should be challenged, (during a debate?), and I would sue. "Can't be trusted...can't be trusted..can't be trusted..." Expect this to come up over and over, because of course, Devos is the corporate criminal with the beady, shifty eyes, who can't be trusted; they think they can get rid of it, like, "Tag--you're it." You can tell just how immoral their whole campaign is by the outrageous claim that Granholm "lost" the debate--ridiculous. They are counting on you to have missed it, and therefore vulnerable to anyone's lying characterization of it. "Today's newspapers" claim Granholm was "nasty"? Where? "She'll make up any story, just to get ...elected." Oh, that's not DeVos doing that, as everyone knows. Another attampt to shift another one of their noticable traits onto Granholm, by advertising. Granholm is "so nasty...?" Are they kidding?

As long as Granholm keeps up the explanations--as she did so brilliantly during the debate several times--that DeVos is a corporation-owner whose only interest is the increased profit of that corporation, and that the methods used hurt Michigan and America--killing all taxes for rich people and corporations, and shifting them onto the rest of us, outsourcing jobs to other countries, deregulating the workplace and all other rules of business, etc.--then that neutralizes the routine that DeVos is a "business-owner" and "therefore knows what needs to be done to help the economy," etc. DeVos will outsource and cut taxes, not caring what it does to Michigan or its government; just like Bush and Cheney. DeVos intends to keep up this "wall of noise" all the way up to the election this November, to try to drown out the debates, where the truth was revealed.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 11:08 AM
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5. Excellent summation. I'm hearing exactly the same thng.
Second-hand opinions. They're delivering parrot-training ... for the political parrots to mimic at the water-cooler and over their shopping carts in the vacuous-skulled pretense of having anything approximating a mind.

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JordanLFW Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 04:57 PM
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3. i got a robocall too
The GOP just wasted $.03 on me!
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 06:04 AM
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9. That's a great way to look at it!
:hi:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 11:00 AM
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4. Every day. Our phone is on their call list, BIG TIME.
Three calls yesterday and one so far today. The same smarmy, fact-free, "back fence" idiocy ... in a voice that reminds me why whites are called "honkies." Lily Tomlin. It's Fascist Fone Sex - delivered in prurient, Peeping Tom, holier-than-thou, lie-sprinkled tones like gossip in the toilet.

They're "toilet calls." I get an overwhelming urge to hit the "Flush" button.

:puke:
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 06:04 AM
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8. I can't stand it when she/it's on my answering machine when I get
home. It's home invasion if you ask me.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 01:50 PM
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6. They must not bother calling in my area
I live in southern Macomb county, in Sander Levin's district. I never get calls from any campaign, dem or rep. I am grateful.

Unless those are the calls I hang up on as soon as I hear that automated click?!
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 06:03 AM
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7. They bother. You and I are in the same district.
I adore Sander! :bounce: If you don't answer the crap ends up on your answering machine. And she's a sanctimonious witch. :hi:
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 08:37 AM
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10. Poor little Dick, Poor little George
Edited on Thu Oct-05-06 08:37 AM by Strawman
Just because they are completely out of their depth and have no business even considering running for executive office, tha doesn't mean those mean Democrats should make them uncomfortable by having to answer questions. :sarcasm:

Are these people serious?! Glad I got rid of my land line.
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barrytonmi Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 06:25 PM
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11. Disappointing...
If I hear Devos say the word "disappointing" (or any variation thereof) one more time, I may have to regurgitate. I lost track of the number of times he said it during the first debate. I hope he learns another word before the second one - maybe the word "outstanding" would be one he could substitute. ;) And does the man e-v-e-r answer a question?!
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 07:19 PM
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12. Hey! Welcome to DU!!!
Hopefully, come November, we'll never have to look at his mug in our living rooms again. :D
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barrytonmi Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 11:42 PM
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13. Thanks for the welcome...
and please keep reminding me that on Nov. 8th, he will no longer be looking out from my TV with his Bush-like weasel eyes, telling me that Gov. Granholm did not go and meet with the Japanese, and how disappointing it all is. I WANT him to be disappointed on Nov. 8th, especially if he's been up all night watching the voting returns. I WANT him to know the pain of rejection such as we have known under Engler and Bush. I WANT him to have to talk to Betsey about his disappointment and how it's the fault of the voters and how disappointed he is in them. I WANT him to spend millions on his campaign, all for naught. I WANT him to have to tell ol' Lee Iacoca thanks for being in California and trying to help a political campaign in Michigan after taking millions from this state in wages and pension packages. But most of all, I just don't want to have to see him on TV anymore. I don't want to have to listen to him on the radio anymore. I don't want to have to see his signs anymore. I just want him gone.
:party:
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 06:22 PM
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14. Our cell phones aren't listed in any yellow pages. No collect calls.
Do away with your land line.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 08:55 PM
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15. Can't. It's my business line and my license does not allow me to have
a cell phone as a business phone.
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