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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 11:11 PM
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Lower Great Lakes Water Levels Projected For 2011
Source: Channel 3000 Madison

The corps says this summer's level on Lake Superior will be 13-15 inches below 2010, and about 13 inches below its historical average.
It tells The Detroit News that lakes Michigan and Huron will be 7-12 inches below 2010 and about 22 inches below average.
It says Lake St. Clair will be seven inches below 2010, and a foot below average, while Erie will be 6 inches below last year and the average.

Read more: http://www.channel3000.com/goinggreen/27115806/detail.h...



They don't give any reasons. Does it always fluctuate this much?
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 11:16 PM
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1. It depends on how much is being taken out of the
water table and how warm the winter has been. Ontario is a bit higher than it has been in the last few years.

Agriculture does take a fair bit from the water table, but too many water bottling plants are taking water from the table,and winters have been milder, summers hotter, which contributes to the problem.

It's not brilliant.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 11:25 PM
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2. Global Warming -- increasing droughts/floods -- increasing severity --
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DeadEyeDyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 11:26 PM
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3. must be it
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SugarShack Donating Member (979 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 11:50 PM
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5. They are pumping the Great Lakes and sending the water to China!!
Jesse Ventura's weekly series "Conspiracy Theory" just exposed a plot to steal U.S. water. Sounds outrageous, but they had aerial photos of large yellow barges filled with drinking water from the United States, being dragged to China.
The Chinese built the world's largest hydro-electric power plant, and they use our water to power it. They dump our water in their own reservoirs, where it is either diverted for power, or filled into plastic bottles made in China. Then the water is shipped back to us where it is sold under various labels.

snip

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/7520461-china...
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 12:09 AM
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7. I've heard that -- business here uses 80% of our water --
they want to privatize it now so we can pay for what they use!!

None the less, what I've said about Global Warming is ture --

more droughts/floods --

We're in NJ -- every time it rains now, we're getting flood warnings --

constantly harder rain -- and heavy downfalls at one time.

Same with winds -- increasingly severe on windy days --

They're cutting down a lot of trees --

"We had to burn the village to save it!" --


:nuke:
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 01:27 AM
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10. Wow, Jesse Ventura has totally lost his marbles.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 11:30 PM
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4. If you set at the harbor in Two Harbors you can see the water line
from the past. It has been slowly going down for years. They had to keep the bigger boats from coming into the harbor to load iron ore because it was too shallow.
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 11:54 PM
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6. We gotta change the way we're livin'
r trouble's all we'll see....
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Night Crawler Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 01:03 AM
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8. A few years ago I was helping a grandkid of ours with a report
about the Great Lakes. We came across a website with a very interesting report on Great lakes water level in historical context. For example....


Imagine you are a SCUBA diver exploring the bottom of southern Lake Huron. In the gloomy light
near the bottom, you see what appears to be a log, some branches, and other wood debris. You take little notice of these until you see a stump, with some obvious roots penetrating into the bottom. This seems impossible since it suggests this tree once grew here, a few miles offshore in 40 ft of water.
Although the logs and branches could have floated out from shore and sunk once they became
waterlogged, the stump could have grown in this position only if this area was once dry land.
Scenes like this are found in several areas of the Great Lakes. They represent undeniable evidence that water levels in the Great Lakes were once radically lower than they are today, making some of our concerns about recent low water levels pale in comparison. Imagine 300 feet lower!


http://www.vibracoring.com/files/dfreport1.pdf

It's really a fascinating study. Needless to say I, I mean, She got an A on the report
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 11:29 AM
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11. Ah...very interesting!! Could it have been subduction after a quake? nt
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 01:10 AM
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9. Seriously the water is being sold to China....read "Blue Gold" and Water Wars
Edited on Mon Mar-21-11 01:35 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
The Great Lakes hold 25% of the fresh water on the planet....and the world wants it


Here are afew other books on the issue


http://www.amazon.com/Great-Lakes-Water-Wars/dp/1559630...
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guyr37 Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 12:16 PM
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12. Great Lakes Water Levels
I have been told that the dredging of the St Clair River has increased the flow from Lake Michigan and Lake Superior and is a major reason for the lower water levels in the upper Great Lakes. I have also heard the argument that there is dredging going on in the Detroit river, which is after the St Clair River..which would indicate slower flow and sediment build up. I have also heard that the water being taken from Lake Michigan through Chicago has increased dramatically over the last 10 years.

I would be interested to know if anyone can has any information with regard to this.
The Great lakes are more precious and should be used wisely, in the future cities in arid locals like Nevada and Arizona will not make sense.

Comments?
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 02:14 AM
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13. Levels seem to roughly follow ten year cycles
The Great Lakes, except Superior, were well below average from about 1930 to 1944 and all the lakes were quite low from the late 50's to the late 60's.

http://www.lre.usace.army.mil/greatlakes/hh/datalinks/P...
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