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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 08:51 AM
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Guess none of the men-folk will be attending the caucuses
They'll be watching football :eyes:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3657051&mesg_id=3657051

Guess it's up to us women to carry on Iowa's tradition. :rofl:
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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 09:42 AM
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1. Oh man...
Edited on Mon Oct-29-07 09:42 AM by IA_Seth
I don't even know if I want to replay to that one!

I hearby swear that I, as an Iowan male obviously obsessed more with football than the democratic process, will delay my football watching and additional beer drinkin until AFTER we, as Iowans, impose our will on the rest of our nation's Democrats.

Some people and their perceptions of Iowa... sheesh.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 10:03 AM
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2. See if the precinct captain can get a TV in the place
Edited on Mon Oct-29-07 10:08 AM by rurallib
As for me I enjoy college football, but I hate the commercials. I hate the commercials so much that I usually end up turning it off. So it is no big deal. Now if Iowa were involved it might be a different story.
edit to add - what should be a two hour game now lasts upwards of 4 hours now thanks to the above mentioned commercials. So whatever game it is will still be on by the time we meet, caucus and go home. Heck, the second half will probably just be starting.
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IA_Seth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 11:28 AM
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5. That'll be me...
And I really don't like the thought of competing with a TV for attention myself... maybe I am not a good temp caucus chair?! I agree, if Iowa/IA State/UNI were PLAYING that day, then it may be different.

The caucus results are going to be more interesting than any stinkin game anyway!
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 11:42 AM
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6. Interesting isn't it rurallib
that the whole concept behind advertising was to keep the ticket and concession prices down for the attendees of the game (and the costs of production down for the teevee station) and yet, it costs more now to go to a game than ever AND to eat or drink there. :eyes:
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 02:34 PM
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12. And the athletes get little of the swag
I know they get a scholarship, but for the money they generate they deserve more.
My mind is going off on a 'skewed priorities' jag right now. Ferentz get what? @$2,000,000 per year and a teacher gets @$25,000 and has to pay their own insurance. I like Ferentz, but jesus, that is so out of line. Not blaming Ferentz - if someone wanted to pay me $2 mill I wouldn't stop them.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 03:24 PM
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13. I don't think that's what the University pays him...I think most of that is endorsements
remember, though (and this doesn't make it right but it is reality), that Ferentz and the team bring revenue into the school, a teacher doesn't (unless you count that teacher's wealthy alumni that give back much later down the road). So comparing the two doesn't work when it comes to $$$ in/out.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:23 AM
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23. I was a little low

Ferentz, who has led the Hawkeyes to two Big Ten titles and four straight January bowl games, was given a restructured contract that boosts his annual salary to $2.84 million from $1.44 million, with a one-time payment of $1.4 million.
http://www.ncsports.us/2006/06/big-money-iowa-boosts-ferentzs-pay.html

I didn't even realize he made that much. And that was from last year. Here is something from the QC Times from about a year ago:
IOWA CITY — Kirk Ferentz didn’t ask to be the poster boy for a national newspaper article that highlighted the escalating salaries of college football coaches.

But the Iowa football coach makes no apologies after he was included in a story that was headlined “Million-dollar coaches move into mainstream” last week.

The article profiled the rising salaries and incentives being paid to the game’s top coaches. A sidebar detailed the guaranteed compensation and incentive bonuses that Ferentz receives as part of a restructured contract the university administration announced it had signed with its eighth-year coach in June.

The contract guarantees Ferentz $4.64 million during a

13-month period, ending June 30, 2007.

Ferentz has a base salary of $1.44 million, recurring supplemental payouts totaling $1.4 million, a $400,000 longevity bonus and a one-time payout of $1.4 million.
http://www.qctimes.com/articles/2006/11/23/sports/doc456544b2b944f554703311.txt
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And to think that when I was a kid we used to say that those that can't do anything could at least coach football. I am not trying to pick on Ferentz. I really like him as a coach. I just never realized that things were so skewed.
True, he gets paid by ticket sales but holy cow! Someone made the comment about prices for tickets going up while the # of commercials increases dramatically.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:28 AM
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24. I SO need to learn how to coach!
:hi:
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Counciltucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 10:31 PM
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15. You could always start your beer drinking at the caucus.
Might make for a more interesting time.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 07:54 AM
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17. Beer?! What the heck?
I thought we already voted unanimously for Jell-o shooters!
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 10:41 AM
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19. Mmmmmm is it Caucus day yet?
Edited on Tue Oct-30-07 10:42 AM by Debi
:beer:
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Counciltucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 11:07 AM
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22. Pre-gaming. n/t
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Rambis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 10:17 AM
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3. If my teams are not on I don't watch
and since I am an ISU fan and Vikings fan I have tons of free time after the regular season without scheduling conflicts.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 11:44 AM
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7. Even if your team was playing
I think you'd choose your civic duty over football.....right :hide:
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Rambis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 12:06 PM
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10. correct
there is more to life than football!
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 10:39 AM
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4. I've tried to keep a sense of humor about all this
But I sort of blew up when I read that shit. If you want to read what I said, go back to the post that Debi referred to. I just posted something. Enough is enough!
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 11:45 AM
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8. It is getting old
:hug:

Thanks for sticking up for us Iowan women!
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josh_edwards07 Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 11:57 AM
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9. Oh Debi,
It's the college football championship game, and it's not like my Hawkeyes will be there. I'll be caucusing for my candidate.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 12:21 PM
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11. YOU would NEVER let football interfere with politics!
(Now Hockey.......:yoiks:)
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 07:56 AM
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18. Well to be fair...
Have you ever seen the Redwings play? Democratic process can't hold a candle to a goalie with a five-hole the size of a dime!
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 10:44 AM
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20. I am absolutely positive those words mean something...
:rofl:

You know how many hockey games I have attended - and very much enjoyed both of them since the Blackhawks won both times.

Unfortunatley I don't 'get' hockey a bit! But man...when Young Arena is hoppin there is no better place to be!!! :bounce:
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 05:59 PM
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14. It will be a bigger factor than the media will lead onto
I can see a lot of people who won't take time to caucus because they will be watching the game. It will hurt Obama and help Hillary.
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Counciltucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 10:35 PM
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16. I really don't think it'll help Hillary all that much.
Maybe aside from the fact that it seems that younger voters are more willing to go Obama and older ones Hillary. But if there's a storm, that would negate any Hillary advantage.

That all said, GO EDWARDS!
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 10:46 AM
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21. Oh pshaw pstans - any active Democrat will not blow off the caucuses
to watch the Orange Bowl. If someone chooses the game over the caucuses, they were looking for an excuse to not go anyway.
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