Anyone from the 3rd here?

[returnable]

Thoughts on ousting that carpetbagging plant Lipinski?

[Gary Kleppe]

1. Try looking here:

http://www.illinoisdemnet.com/

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

2. I was at the League of Women Voters debate yesterday 3-05-06 in

the Village Hall of LaGrange for all the candidates Dem and Puke alike.

Great turnout, there were maybe a total of 10 empty seats.

As for the debate itself, the two Pukes, Ray Wardingly and Arthur Jones, neither one of them stand a chance in the general election. They are both too out of the mainstream for the 3rd, especially Jones. Mr. Jones is just to the right of Attila the Hun. When asked about Social Security and it's problems he replied that the main reason SS is in trouble is because there are not enough Americans working and the main reason for this was because of all the abortions since Roe v. Wade. Needless to say, there was chuckling throughout the room at that response.

As we all know, the real election will take place in the primary on the 21st between Lipinski, Sullivan and Kelly. Lipinski and Kelly just basically parroted each other with their answers.

John Sullivan impressed me. IMHO, he's the real Democrat in the race. Lipinski IMO is a DINO, remember he voted for the Schiavo bill last year and for bankruptcy "reform".

Kelly is just an asshat. I should qualify that statement. I know this guy personally and, believe me, he doesn't have the brains to blow himself to hell. I have absolutely no doubt that he's a plant to make it look like Lipinski has some opposition. Well someone should inform the brainless Mr. Kelly that 'Danny Boy' does have an opponent and his name is John Sullivan.

Here's the link to Sullivan's website www.sullivanforcongress.com. Check it out and donate something if you can. Also he's got info on where he'll be for the next week, meeting and greeting voters. If you have time, try and meet him. I think you'll agree with my assessment of him.

[returnable]

3. Cool. Thanks for the update.

Team Sullivan still hasn't replied to any of my emails, but I'm hoping to catch him at Reading on Walden tomorrow.

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

4. I'll be there with my sister and another friend of mine.

I spoke very briefly with John on Sunday before the debate and he told me his people will be out my way (Oak Lawn) over the weekend canvassing and putting up yard signs. Believe me, this needs to be done ASAP. All over the neighborhood there are nothing but "Brainless Kelly" and "Danny Boy" yard signs.

[returnable]

5. Wasn't able to make it.

How'd the talk go?

Do you know if he's planning on making the rounds during the parade on Sunday? I was actually hoping to have a sign up by then, but, again, no one from his campaign will return my messages...

[Paulie]

6. Glad I have a choice

Jr has been less responsive to me than Sr. Not even the form letters.

F Lipinski.

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

7. There was a small group attending last night. I'd say about 20

people altogether.

Update on the yard signs, John said last night they're not going to do the rounds this weekend. They're going to wait until next weekend, Saturday, Mar. 18th and put up signs. Basically, he's afraid if he puts them up earlier, they'll be stolen. Nice, huh..

It sounded like the "Reading on Walden" group is planning to do something for the parade on Sunday. One of the women said they plan to be in the area of 103rd & Western. The group is pushing Claypool for Pres. of the Cook County Board, Alex Giannoulous for State Treasurer, Dinah Shore for the MWRD and John Sullivan.

One interesting thing I discovered yesterday re: John Kelly. I went to opensecrets.org to see how much money he has raised for this campaign and guess what? According to opensecrets.org John T. Kelly has $0 and "Citizens for John T. Kelly" the organization printed on his mail pieces doesn't come up at all. Lipinski has $158,613 and John Sullivan has $63,807.

What I'd love to know is with $0 how Mr. Kelly has been able to do two mass mailings in the past two weeks and has had scores of yard signs over all Oak Lawn, Burbank and sections of the 19th Ward? I didn't know you could run a political campaign on thin air...Methinks there is defintely something "rotten" in the 3rd...

I don't understand what's going on with the e-mail for Sullivan. John told me last night that if I wanted to do some phone banking for him, leave an e-mail and they would send me listings of phone numbers. So far, I've gotten nothing, but then again it was only last night. If I don't have anything in my hand by Saturday, I'll call the phone number listed on his website and ask where they are. BTW John also said if you are willing to put up a yard sign, contact the e-mail and leave your name and address, etc and you'll get one.

[Gary Kleppe]

8. As I said in another thread...

...that zero is as of December 31. Doubtless he's raised more since then.

This is not to say that Kelly's campaign might not be rotten anyway. I have no idea. Wouldn't surprise me if it is.

[returnable]

9. Cool. Thanks for the info.

The ol' homestead is smack dab in the middle of the parade action, so I'd like to have a sign up - even if it doesn't make it through the day :)

[il_lilac]

10. info from my peace group

John Sullivan, is an anti-war, pro-choice against pro-war/anti-choice Daniel Lipinski (who votes more often with Bush than any other democrat)/ Not only is the district overwhelmingly pro-choice and anti-war but Sullivan’s pollster, Celinda Lake, thinks the race is winnable, and the Southtown Endorsement below will surely help. I urge you to help John as if we are going to send democrats to congress, they should be anti-war and pro- choice, or why bother.


Thanks for your help. Our plan is to walk the top 300 precincts and phone-bank the top 300 precincts on March 18 and 19. We can send call sheets and phone scripts via email. For those who are willing to walk, we plan to meet at the campaign office at 8943 S. Western each morning at 10:00 a.m. before we go out.

Volunteers can email us at [email protected] ,call us at 708.221.3328, or get more information at sullivanforillinois.com. They should contact Andrew Moore.

Any donations should be made out to Friends of John Sullivan and mailed to:
P.O. Box 557914
Chicago, IL 60655.

Dan Lipinski said we cannot leave Iraq beause we are sitting on a lot of oil.
I obviously believe we need to get out of Iraq.

Please spread the word.

From the Daily Southtown:

Our U.S. Congress primary choices
Tuesday, March 7, 2006
Two years ago, Democratic voters in the 3rd Congressional District, as they had many times in the past, selected long-time U.S. Rep. William Lipinski as their nominee for the general election. But between the primary and the general election, Lipinski announced he would retire at the end of his term. To fill his spot on the ballot, loyal Democratic committeemen chose Lipinski's son, Daniel Lipinski, who easily won election to Congress despite cries that he was handed the seat while other potential candidates were ignored.
This year, Lipinski, of Western Springs, must rely on the voters to put him on the November ballot. He faces formidable challenges from two serious primary candidates, John Kelly, an insurance consultant from Oak Lawn, and John Sullivan, an assistant state's attorney from Chicago's Beverly community. The district includes Chicago's Southwest Side and near southwest and west suburbs.
Since his election, the younger Lipinski has tried to follow his father's script. He is a social conservative whose views he believes mirror those of his constituents. His father was a Washington stalwart when it came to delivering federal funding to the region, especially in the area of transportation. Daniel is striving to continue that performance. Lipinski, to his credit, also is trying to follow his father's lead in helping constituents fight their way through government red tape.
But Lipinski, a former college professor, has become only slightly more polished as a regional leader and only slightly better versed on the issues since his first election. He almost seems uncomfortable in the role and lacks the forcefulness we'd like to see in a congressman.
Kelly, who offers reasoned views on a number of issues, stresses he is the only candidate of the three who currently comes from the private sector.
But the Daily Southtown endorses Sullivan because we believe he can be a more dynamic lawmaker, and because we believe he is more in touch with mainstream Democratic Party ideals — not strictly those of the Bungalow Belt that is Lipinski's base. Sullivan supports universal health care and urges withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq in a year. He also backs emergency contraception, stem-cell research and abortion rights.
The 3rd District Republican primary will pit perennial candidate Ray Wardingley against insurance broker Arthur Jones. A one-time leader of the National Socialist White People's Party, Jones has fought to keep blacks from moving into all-white neighborhoods, and he said he would seek to impeach President Bush for bowing to "Zionists" who, he claims, conspired to cause the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks in a bid to get the United States into a war with Iraq. That's only a sampling of his scary ideas. Unfortunately, Wardingley once again has brought little of substance to the table. We cannot endorse either candidate. However, to keep Jones from going any further politically, we recommend voters select Wardingley.
The Republican Party should be embarrassed it has not fielded a better candidate in this district, especially because it currently is being represented by a first-termer like Lipinski.

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

11. I've heard from various sources that Kelly is really a Puke plant.

There is absolutely no difference in his thinking on major issues than Lipinski's and we all know Danny Boy is Repuke-Lite.

Kelly filed to run as a Puke in the 3rd in 2004 and then pulled out for "family reasons". I think he was told by various Puke powers that be, i.e., Fast Eddie Vrydolak, to wait until now.

As my late father told me a long, long time ago, "once a Republican, always a Republican".

BTW, I got another piece of mail for Mr. Kelly today. It was from Martin McGarry of McGarry's Boxing Club and paid for by "Citizens to Elect John T. Kelly".

Can some explain to me why I can't find anything on the FEC site that relates to "Citizens to Elect John T. Kelly".

There are copies of Kelly for Congress Statement of Candidacy, Statement of Organization, FEC Disclosure Form 3 Receipts and Disbursements for an Authorized Committee, pg 1 (Summary Page), pg 2 (Detailed Summary Page) and Schedule A Itemized Receipts for all listed line numbers for Committee: Kelly for Congress. The Statement of Candidacy and Statement of Organization were filed 12-13-05 and accepted/prepared by the FEC 12-27-05. The other documents were electronically filed on March 9, 2006.

Wouldn't this organization "Citizens for John T. Kelly" have to file reports with the FEC as well, or I am missing something here???

:dilemma: :dilemma:

[returnable]

12. Really frustrated with Sullivan

I've tried repeatedly to get in touch with the Sullivan campaign, but my messages have gone unreturned.

He'll probably still get my vote on 3/21 simply cuz Danny Boy has to go. But I'm reluctant to offer up anything else at this point for a campaign that seems thoroughly disorganized and non-committed to the grass roots.

[mopinko]

13. just show up.

go to the office, and offer a hand. you have no idea how much there is to do in a cd race. a shoestring campaign is stretched to the limit at the end. if they had time to return your call, that is when you should be worried.
find out where they are phone banking, and go. check your local dfa. don't whine. go.

[returnable]

14. I understand that

And I'm not whining, and least I'm trying not to. It's more frustration. I've been involved in campaigns before, so I know full well what goes into them and the demands. I also know basic community outreach is fundamental. For example, asking people to join a mailing list, and then not maintaining said mailing list, is just unprofessional. YOu want people to "just show up"? You have to let them know when and where you want them to show up! You can't expect people to track your every move. Some people don't have time to log onto his webpage every day to find out where he may be appearing. You have to make an effort to connect. Like I said, he's already got my vote. But I haven't been impressed with his campaign. The fact is Sullivan has basically zero presence right now in the 3rd.

[mopinko]

15. professional costs money.

you are whining. i don't mean that in a mean way, but if you want graassroots campaigns, people have to just jump in, or they don't go.

[returnable]

16. Well, it cuts both ways

The campaign has to be involved, as well. If Sullivan fails, you can't put it all on the constituents, most of whom probably have never even heard of the candidate.

And anyone who saw Lipinski jeered at the Parade on Sunday knows this district can be had.

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

17. Was Danny Boy really jeered on Sunday???

I find that remarkable considering Kevin Joyce is running his campaign.

Was Kelly marching in the parade on Sunday? If he did, what kind of reception did he get?

BTW Mike Joyce, brother of Kevin Joyce, is running Kelly's campaign. But Mr. Kelly's not a plant. Yeah, right!!!!

The problem with this whole race in the 3rd is that it didn't get any coverage in the local media, ie. Daily Southtown, Southwest News Herald, etc, until that asshat Kelly announced that he was running in January.

Call Sullivan's campaign and complain. The number listed on the website is voice mail, but if you leave a strong enough message maybe someone will get back to you.

Other than that, do what il lilac suggested in her post above, go to his campaign headquarters this Saturday and Sunday and find out what you can do to help out. I'm doing phone banking for him over the weekend from my house.

[returnable]

18. Cool. I appreciate the feedback

And, yeah, Lipinski got jeered on Sunday - in fact, his float flamed out, literally. The truck's engine caught fire and Danny Boy had to abandon ship. The Trib ran a small piece on it yesterday ("as the crowd cheered mercilessly" or something to that effect). What a clown.

[wndycty]

19. Check your yahoo account. . .

. . .I'm trying to hook you up with Sullivan. I talked to his finance chair and she is going to shoot you an e-mail, I will probably walk in the district on Sunday, so let me know if Mia or John reaches out to you.

[mopinko]

20. it IS on the constituents

people are supposed to educate themselves. people powered campaigns are just that. powered by people who take their civic duty seriously, who step up to the plate, who educate themselves, who get involved. people who don't sit back and wait to be sold, like laundry detergent.